Fire Engines Photos

Thanks, Barrie, for getting out this wonderful B & W of a vanished era....

Wonder how this old girl made out, in Hitler's War; breaking out within months of the photo ?

Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B

Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 16 April 2009.

Pat..it was in service until the late 1950s early 60s and was replaced by a AEC Merryweather

Added by Barrie Green on 16 April 2009.

Does anyone know if Oxford Fire Brigade had a Merryweather TL either during the war or the immediate post war period?

Added by Barry on 20 January 2013.

Yes they had GLW 435 a Dennis Merryweather which was at Oxford from new in 1943 and passed to the City of Oxford Fire Brigade in 1948

Added by Dusty on 23 January 2013.

Dusty, thank you for this information. I was hoping that this would be case. A friend is restoring a Sulzer fire pump which is marked up as from Oxford Fire Brigade. He was hoping that it might of had a more glorius background than just from a trailer pump. As all the Dennis Merryweather Tl's had the Sulzer pumps fitted, quite possibly it came from GLW435.

Added by Barry on 23 January 2013.

Several British fire brigades including London had Metz and/or Magirus TLs in service during WWII, which they acquired in the late 1930s. I was told by fire officers in Darlington, my home town, that during the war they had trouble getting anyone to service their "Nazi" Magirus ladder, but that for some reason spare parts were always available!

I do not think the German fire service had any Merryweathers, so they presumably did not have the same problem.

Added by Rob Johnson on 23 January 2013.

Barry
From what I have seen in photos the former TrPs fitted to TLs had the casing modified on one side with a flat panel. If your friends Sulzer has the same bonnet on both sides it stayed as a TrP. Unless of course somone knows differently.

Added by Neal Glover on 23 January 2013.

The Sulzer pump in question is now on this site (picture 33880). It does have one flat sided panel so possibly this does point more towards the TL. If anyone has any photos of a Sulzer trailer pump or more information about GLW435 it would be great to hear from them. In the mean time I will have a chat with some colleagues in Oxford Fire and Rescue and see if they have someone there that might have any info.

Added by Philip Howard on 26 January 2013.

From, Wheels of Fire, The NFS "bible" written by Alan House:- The orders for medium Sulzers were superceded by Harlands so there were never many of them. There is a photo on page 195. It was in 1947 that the 1st conversions to pumps for TLs began.
From the photos it appears almost certain that the preserved one is off a TL, most likely a Home Office Dennis Merryweather or a Leyland TD7.

Added by Neal Glover on 26 January 2013.

GLW433 for searching. Notice in the background of this photo the premises of Charles Jones. They were agricultural engineers in Chester city centre. The later Charles was a great fire engine enthusiast whom I met in the 1970s and there is a tribute to him here

flickr.com/photos/75816397@N08/

Added by Petros on 26 March 2023.

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