Hi William, I notice your post in which you said you worked for Merryweather from 1959 onwards. I saw a few lines in The World Encyclopedia of Fire Engines & Firefighting by Neil Wallington which mentions that in 1961 Merryweather and Carmichael's worked together on 11 AEC Marquis Fire Engines on the construction of the bodies for London Fire Brigade. Do you know if that was true, False or exaggerated?
Added by Adrian J Carmichael on 30 September 2023.
Adrian: These were a bit unusual, as the front axle was set back so that the driver and officer had their own doors and could more easily access the front seats. This modification was also a feature of a batch of newer AEC Merryweather TLs supplied to London.
Previously, all of the AEC Merryweather appliances had two small sliding doors behind the front axle. This was not favored by LFB for crew access or egress, even on TLs which often had only two or three crew. It was even less practical for a dual purpose pump, which had four, five, or even occasionally six riders. Nor did it enable BA sets to be installed in the cab itself, as these could be positioned on the bulkhead between the front and rear seats on four door appliances.
Some other brigades bought similar four door AEC pumps with Carmichael and Haydon bodywork too, including I believe Glasgow. They were all delivered in the early to mid 1960s.
As Dennis introduced the AEC diesel engined F 105/6 series in 1965, brigades which wanted diesels tended to prefer these, and London was no exception. The Perkins V8 diesel F 108/9 cemented this relationship after it was introduced in 1967, as it was very powerful for its time with 170 BHP.
Added by Chris Parton on 22 July 2008.