Fire Engines Photos

Nice appliance! Few questions though, why the bullbar like arrangement to hold the winch? does it not fit otherwise? And are those white strokes on the outsides of the blues on the front grill? Interesting set up! Thanks for the pic!

Added by David Sapsford on 14 November 2007.

from what i got told the winch was to power full to be fitted to the front bumper of seria82 so it had to go ff for modifications to the front bumper the IRU has front white strobes as seen in this video of it here www.youtube.com/watch?v=e65Rge7vSYY

Added by Fire Fifer on 15 November 2007.

starting to get a bit big and high, that is a climb and a half into the crew cab!! , these chassis are designed for cement mixers etc, cant see them coping with the speed and handling required of a b type w/t/l, hope the powers to be know what they are doing !

Added by Big Al on 31 October 2008.

Al, its been said elswhere on this site that commercial chassis, as you know, are fitted as a cost cutting excercise. The loading and stresses put on these chassis at emergency speeds lead to accidents, sadly some fatal.

Added by John Stott on 31 October 2008.

Big Al! Is 55 mph to slow for you? I can't see any reason for a higher speed for any heavy vehicle from any F&rs! Volvo is a common vehicle with F&rs in Sweden, and I havent heard any complains so far abuot them!

Anders F.Sweden.

Added by Anders Fallström on 01 September 2015.

Hi , Anders from sweden , 55 is way too slow , its not only embarassing being overtaken by small cars and caravans on the motorway as I am regulariy in our nice new slow scania that goes round corners like a ship at sea , it saves lives getting there promptly and yes safely but 55 is not a safe speed on a motorway, it may be ok in a rural setting although in some cases say in the night it isnt , the only way that the speed should be linited is if the vehicle is unsafe at speed and these are , the scanias that strathclyde have have been curt down to 9mph on roundabouts as they fall over , I would like to be in a scania at any speed as they wallow round corners and remeber fire appliances are lightly loaded in comparison to say concrete mixers and thats the kind of vehicle commercial chassis should be restricted to , they were never designed as emergency vehicles , merely adapted , I understand you defense of your countrys products but they are not great fire appliances due to more than performance.

Added by BIG Al on 02 September 2015.

Anders,

In the US 55mph is WAY to slow for any sort of emergency vehicle. In my region they often drive on a multi-lane highway with some substantial climbs and typical crusing speeds of 65-70mph. . If they could only go 55 on the flat, they would by going 40-45mph up the hills. At that speed they'd be a traffic hazard.

Added by TBone on 03 September 2015.

BIG AL,

Due to the nature road conditions I understand why the track on European fire appliances is narrow compared to American ones. What I've noticed with the newer Scania and to a lesser degree with the Volvo's is that the cabs ride very high compared to previous generations of UK appliances. Mercedes seems to be the exception to this. Is this why London sourced from them? The Continental European appliances also seem lower no matter provides the cabs. If the typical engine/pumper is difficult to handle, its pretty easy to figure out why the CARPS tip. Very few CARPS on the continent as well. Have they figured it out?



Added by TBone on 05 September 2015.

Trust me this appliance will happily do more than 55. One of the best appliances I have ever driven. scania is not a patch on it

Added by Bairn30 on 06 September 2015.

In this appliance with its obvious height and weight I really wouldn't want to do more than 55 on narrow country roads , I am sure that a firefighter lost his life in a similar appliance on rural roads , I appreciate that there was some finitely over the road conditions ie wet with leaves but these are petrol tankers not fire engines and were never designed as such , this is a country with many resources we should be investing these resources in a safe fast appliance and safety doesn't only include swiftness it also includes ease of Ingres and egress , handling qualities etc , a cement mixer chassis doesn't cover these

Added by Diamond T on 08 September 2015.

If you are referring to the john noble crash it was a volvo fm9. Hit oil on an extremely sharp bend At 40mph. The strength of the cab is what saved the rest of the guys from charlie 1-1. Say what you will but I will fight the fm series corner. They are fantastic appliances with plenty of power, locker space, cab space and very driver friendly

Added by Bairn30 on 08 September 2015.

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