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KFB Commer RKR194
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No: 35269   Contributor: Chris Stone   Year: 1998   Manufacturer: Commer   Country: United Kingdom
KFB Commer RKR194

A Preserved Kent Fire Brigade Commer 86A/HCB-Angus WrT RKR194 with Cliffe Fire Station plates, seen at a steam rally in 1998
Picture added on 03 July 2013 at 10:23
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does anyone know where this fire engine is now? is it still in good condtion?

Added by Adam White on 01 February 2014.
I found it and now own it.

Added by Adam white on 01 November 2014.
I owned this lovely old appliance in 1992 and stored it at manston fire museum curtesy of Steve Shirley, i bought it from Dave Denne at deal for £600, I sold to Gillingham (kent)retained Subo.

Added by Roy Moore on 26 April 2016.
Thanks roy. I know who you sold it to, I brought it for £2500 nearly two years ago. still in good condtion and working order pumps like a dream. did you buy it from kent fire brigade?

Added by Adam White on 28 April 2016.
I always wondered why some body builders designed so many of these forward control Commers without front cab doors. Was it a cost saving?
The original chassis was specifically intended to provide easy access to the front seats, with the front axle set well back, and many fire engines were built including front doors.
I know that it was relatively easy to get into the front seats from behind - because of the low height of the slant six engine, but why create an access issue when there was no need?
We had two Commers in my hometown fleet in Darlington, one Carmichael and one Whitson. Both had front doors, which allowed them to have four CA BA sets mounted on a half bulkhead behind the front seats, so crew members could don them en route to a call. This would have been impossible without front cab doors!

Added by Rob Johnson on 28 April 2016.
Adam, last time I saw RKR194 it was stored in a barn near Mersham, the then owner (whom had bought it from Mark) had done a good rewiring job on it, Dave Denne ran a private fire company, he had a good selection of vehicles including an ex Deal RS, 2 older K1, s non runners were unfortunately scrapped when I think his parking place lease expired, i don, t recall where he bought RKR194, Regards Roy.

Added by Roy Moore on 04 May 2016.
The 1998 picture shows RKR194 carrying a 105 wooden , Baily ladder (may have an original reg number on it) of which I fitted to conform to Cliffe Retained working, when I bought RKR194 it carried a 135 old steel ladder, i believe that was scrapped at Deal too.

Added by Roy Moore on 05 May 2016.
The person I brought it off got it from mark and carried out a lot of restoration work on her. He had it for years and due to ill health he had to sale her and a green goodess and f8

Added by Adam White on 09 May 2016.
Are you/have been a KFB Firefighter Adam?

Added by Roy Moore on 19 May 2016.
I know all 3 vehicles they were all based at Cte manston (Steve Shirlys) museum, the Green Goddess was very low mileage, the F8 needed restoration, be interested to know if it was driven to the barn near Ashford or trailered and if either have been sold.

Added by on 20 July 2016.
What was the F8s reg? Was it Bowaters one, YRB612 /

That was one I bought from Bowaters when they closed the Nortfleet works brigade. Absolutely mint. I would love to know where another of my many F8s went. UAF339. I know where UAF338 is. Sold to a French museum (regrets).

Added by Colin Duncan on 29 July 2016.
The F8 I mention was, not in tip top condition. I,ll try to gather some information though, Adam White might have more??

Added by John Smith on 12 August 2016.
Adam, is this the one that Howard Myers used to own?

Added by Paul Cornish. on 08 May 2024.
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