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Dennis's at Dowgate Fire station
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No: 34844   Contributor: Chris Stone   Year: 2013   Manufacturers: Camiva, Dennis   Country: United Kingdom
Dennis's at Dowgate Fire station

London Fire Brigade C25 Dowgate Dennis F127 Camiva EPA30 (TL49) E869JYV turning into Dowgate Fire Station
Picture added on 31 May 2013 at 18:09
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This would have been early 1990s when the aerial fleet was moved around. On many occasions when Paddington didn't have the suitably qualified personnel to man their E or U type TL, they would send over Soho's TL, with crew and tell them to badge up as Paddington for the shift, then return for end of shift. Nice photo of Soho's TL badged as Paddington.

Added by Mike Cotton on 03 June 2013.
Wonder why London bought the French Camiva - unlike Metz or Magirus, very few Camiva TLs were sold in export markets. It certainly looks unique!

Added by Rob Johnson on 03 June 2013.
I was told Magirus effectively sold the contract to Csmiva and LFB were obligated to purchase these even though they tried to get out of it. An underdeveloped electric levelled cage was specified instead of the proven mechanical one, which gave real problems which ended in them being removed permanently. Ultimately they became a reliable and liked ladder until they were superseded by the current DLK23-12CS Magirus units.

Added by Mike Cotton on 03 June 2013.
London had 3 of these Dennis F127 John Dennis/Camiva EPA30 TL's. TL48 E868JYV at F29 Leyton, TL49 E869JYV at A24 Soho and TL50 E870JYV at G34 Chelsea.

Added by Chris Stone on 03 June 2013.
Where are these now?

Added by Danny jones on 04 June 2013.
TL49 was written off in 2005, TL50 was broken up, TL48 still exists, whereabouts unknown.


Added by Mike Cotton on 04 June 2013.
Staffordshire F&RS in England had a Dennis F127 Camiva TL on an E plate. Served its whole life at Hanley in Stoke-on-Trent. Beautiful appliance just like the above London TLs.

Added by Yelp Bullhorn on 11 March 2018.
Paris also removed the cages from their Camiva ladders, and as a result the BSPP still operate a large number of their 65 aerials without cages.

Added by Rob Johnson on 09 June 2021.
TL48 has an export marker on DVLA site.

Added by M.west on 10 June 2021.
I hope Mick Cotton can explain the reason for the A243 to A21 Stand by move?, looking at 1990 Fleet List, no TL at A21, central London had A24/A28/G33/H22 with TLs, by 1992 TL40, Ex:Res, at A21, H22 TL to H21, A28 TL, now ALP, 1993 A42 had TL44, Ex:A28, 1994 A42TL gone, i believe this was replaced by HP18 at A30, G33TL to G34.

Added by M.west on 11 June 2021.
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