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ERF/84PFS HCB A SS50 PHP York XDN 494J
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No: 34383   Contributor: Petros   Year: 1975   Manufacturer: ERF   Country: United Kingdom
ERF/84PFS HCB A SS50 PHP York XDN 494J

mid 1970s. The first appliance I ever photographed. see picture 23498. This is a rear view for the modellers amongst us.
Picture added on 04 April 2013 at 17:33
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Just the job Petros, I've been after a rear view photo of this for ages, I have a few other shots of it but never seen a rear view until now. Thank you for sharing, keep the old North York's stuff coming if you have anymore please.

Added by Paul Warnock on 04 April 2013.
this will be the forerunner of todays carps that didnt work then either, I hear from my fiends in tayside that they are to get a dedicated aerial and lose a brand new troublesome carp (been very late on the run due to numerous faults -not that theier other two are faultless by any means)to another area in the brand new scottish FRS

Added by John Fotheringham -sfrs on 05 April 2013.
PHPs came and went quite quickly, mainly I think because the truck had to be positioned very carefully for the relatively short (15 meter) platform to be very useful.

With the flexibility of the new lighter-weight 13.5 meter ground ladders, and the increasing equipment load on every first responding appliance, the 15 meter platform configuration led to a somewhat oversized unit with compromised locker and/or water tank space. Another answer to a question nobody was asking!

As an aside, drivers in York must have been pretty confused at this point in time, with the local Brigade operating a collection of red, white and yellow appliances all at the same time.

Perhaps York also had a Green Goddess, so they could respond (at least in theory) with four units in four different colours?

Added by Rob Johnson on 05 April 2013.
York multi coloured is here at picture 20622. Sadly no Green Goddess though!

Added by Peter Williams on 05 April 2013.
They are not only very colourful, but a pretty mixed bunch, too. Two TKs, an older Bedford ET, an AEC Merryweather TL, a D series Ford and the ERF PHP in its white livery at that time. Quite a mixture!

Added by Rob Johnson on 05 April 2013.
ended its days in Carlow.

Added by Petros on 08 February 2024.
Yet another voyage across the Irish Sea for an unloved PHP!

Ed: York kept it for several years. First ever fire engine I photographed to special to me!

Added by Rob Johnson on 09 February 2024.
Not by HCB Angus I'm afraid--built by Jennings of Northwich.

Ed: I got my information from K Grimes 'Fire Brigade handbook' thanks for the correction. Jennings were the ERF in house bodybuilder.

Added by Aidan Fisher on 09 December 2025.
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