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The most expensive L car in history , a truly shocking waste of taxpayers money , and to make matters worse there are 2 of them! when oh when will they learn it wont work , we are in Britain not the states , we cannot afford these mistakes on the road to cost saving , these people were told they wouldnt work by the very people who know best - firefighters, but as usual we were ignored , fleet managers and senior procurement officers should be hung out to dry ! we now are in a state where brigades are left with no aerials apart from the sensible ones and are now trying to buy in a hurry , shocking is too kind a word

Added by Jim Mcdonald on 01 April 2013.

I assume now that they have this training vehicle, good ol 'dippy' ( 'DPY ) is leaving for pastures new?. Oh and Jim this is not a rebuild of the infamous ARP's. This is a brand new build!

Added by Stevie Murray on 02 April 2013.

Jim, what does 'FRS DTV/WRC' mean?

Added by Tiger on 02 April 2013.

Out of interest, what makes this a waste of money? In theory, it seems a good idea to combine a Water Carrier (something that isnt, I presume, hugely busy) with a driver training vehicle. I expect if it did get a call one of the instructors could swap and do the EFAD bit if necessary?

Added by David on 02 April 2013.

Driver trainer DPY is staying , it will be used for a different class of driving from the new water carrier / driver training vehicle.

Added by D.Cruickshank on 03 April 2013.

Stevie dippy (DPY) was still there on this FBS visit on that dsy. The training Instructor explained that LGV training vehicles have now got to have at least 5 tons of weight on them for realistic driving hence the combination of water carrier which this one has 5.ooo litres. Dippy has 5 tons of concrete blocks and a photo is on this site.

Added by Grant Melville on 03 April 2013.

I saw dpy on driver training in Leith last month with blues and twos on

Added by [email protected] on 04 July 2015.

Why not use a reserve pump appliance for driver training?

Added by Rob Johnson on 30 June 2018.

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Most brigades do, Rob. But Scotland's always been a law unto themselves, lol. Deep-fried battered pizza? Say no more!!!

Added by Yelp Bullhorn on 03 July 2018.

I was once told that Scotland sets the standards, it doesn't follow them! Not so sure the deep fried pizza can be claimed as a Scottish first though ... but the deep fried Mars bar can!

Added by Keith Richardson on 04 July 2018.

It just seems very wasteful - when CFOs are under pressure to reduce costs wherever possible - to have dedicated units for driver training which are not even likely to be very useful operationally.

By the way, reserve units do not have to be all that different from appliances in daily use. Some fire services make a point of placing new units into their reserve pool to avoid the problem of firefighters who need to use reserve units being unfamiliar with them...

Added by Rob Johnson on 04 July 2018.

I know its 5 years later but what was the problem with combining a water tanker with a driver training vehicle ? and were they are a success ?

Added by CraigW on 05 July 2018.

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