Fire Engines Photos

Very interesting rig, it was one of 10 Mack 1000gpm pumpers ordered in 1981(MP8105)and delivered during May-August 1982.This pumper was one of the 10 delivered originally in the lime-green(yellow)livery.
Engine Co 4 is housed with Ladder Co 15 in the 1st Battalion at 42 South Street, Manhattan, a modern fire house opened in 1987.

Added by Pete Matten on 16 January 2013.

Pete - any idea how long they stayed yellow? I never saw any yellow FDNY rigs when I lived in New York.

Added by Rob Johnson on 19 January 2013.

Got to love the Bull Horns on the cab roof ...you've now got all the Mack fans droolling ...have to admit the CF was great rig

Added by Gary bolton on 20 January 2013.

Andrew, any idea what the black thing is fluttering out the window, thanks, ,

Added by Pav on 20 January 2013.

Sorry I have no idea what that can be????

Added by Andrew Breeden on 21 January 2013.

Might be the officers Jacket?

Added by Andy on 22 January 2013.

Looks like some kind of black flag ? 1988 was the 10th anniversary of the Waldbaum Fire collapse, were 6 fire fighters lost their lives.

Added by Marcel Sloover on 22 January 2013.

Your picture of the Seagrave ladder Co 8 showed the crew's turnout coats hanging out of the cab windows - so it was probably very hot and muggy in New York when you were there.

By the same logic, the weather might have been the same on the day you took your picture of this engine - so this could be the company officer's turnout coat. FDNY's equipment did not run to air conditioning or coat hooks in those days, and it can get really hot in the summer in the city.

Added by Rob Johnson on 22 January 2013.

FDNY's Lime-Green(yellow)pumpers.As mensioned above, the 10 Mack CF pumpers delivered in lime green where done actually as an experimental thing commencing back in 1981, but also with the delivery of 80 new American LaFrance'Century Series'pumpers delivered late 1980-early 1981, just one of these was also delivered in Lime Green.Engine Co 65(AP8080)was to be the only American LaFrance pumper to be done in the Lime Green livery.This pumper later went onto serve at the Fire Academy still in the Lime Green livery.
By 1984 with the introduction of the new look colour scheme of white over red cabs for the FDNY fleet, Engines Co's 4, 45, and 46 of the Mack's originally done in the Lime Green were re-liveried.The other 7 Macks delivered in the Lime Green its somewhat difficult to find out there final outcome, but what we do know is that Engine Co 58(Manhattan)housed with Ladder Co 26 in the famous firehouse known as"The Fire Factory"is beleaved to have been the last operational Mack that was delivered in Lime Green(yellow)and this due to the request of the members(they had to be different)of the Firehouse was to retain its original colour until the late 1980's.


Added by Pete Matten on 02 February 2013.

Thanks Pete - amazing fund of knowledge you have on this subject! I thought yellow could not have lasted very long or been widespread, because I often drove past the FDNY workshops in Queens on my way to the 59th street bridge and NEVER saw a yellow unit among the dozens of trucks which would always be parked on the streets near their building.

Peraonally, I like FDNY's white over red and I am pleased they did not persist with yellow. Now I live in Chicago, which has black over red livery; this is very elegant, especially when really clean, but it does not scream "emergency vehicle" quite as effectively. Interestingly, the CFD ambulances do not have the black upper body or roof teatment.

Added by Rob Johnson on 03 February 2013.

To add to the above, the 1990 "Guide to NYC Fire Apparatus" by FAJ Publications lists the remaining 7 slime Macks still in service. These rigs began to be replaced in early 1993 by new Seagrave pumpers, all 7 replaced by summer, 1993 (FAJ Publications).After 10+ years in 1st line service, these probably did not last long in reserve, perhaps a couple were surplused and run elsewhere today.The last Mack CF pumper in FDNY was replaced just before 9/11/2001, but of course some were put in service afterwards due to large loss of apparatus. (FAJ Publications)

Added by Warren W. Jenkins on 03 February 2013.

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