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All change at Rhyl July 1992
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No: 27513   Contributor: Andrew Middleton   Year: 1992   Manufacturers: Dennis, ERF   Country: United Kingdom
All change at Rhyl July 1992

ERF 84RS/Jennings/Simon SS85 HP KDM860K which had served Rhyl for four years replacing ERF 84RS/HCB-Angus/Simon SS85 HP NDM563E was herself replaced in July 1992. PEY254S was just transferred from Wrexham after Wrexham had just recieved their new Scania/Angloco/Bronto 28-2Ti ALP J21 PJC. KDM860K was the final Flintshire appliance to be taken off the run in Clwyd.
Picture added on 29 March 2011 at 19:10
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PEY over KDM anyday. Think you have told me before Andy, but is that YFM behind them or RDM?

Added by Michael C. Smith on 01 April 2011.
Judging by the locker shutter latches (geeky I know!) its YFM675W or even Deesides A reg. RDM360V had locker latches like the R types, am unsure when YFM moved from Ruthin to replace LJC488R in training.

Added by Gary Simpson on 01 April 2011.
YFM675W never served at Ruthin. Volvo FL6.14/F&W WrL G899DKD replaced the Dennis R.

Added by Andrew Middleton on 05 July 2011.
Have to laugh! Yes it did, they attended numerous calls with us especially in the Moel Fammau/Llanarmon yn Ial( Valley Lodge OPH mainly)/Erryrys mountain area in this appliance. Also Ruthin Floods when Eisteddfod was there 1992? It was so underpowered for them that I remember our Sub/O joking that when they received DKD from Rhyl that they would have to wash flies off the windscreen then! After we beat them to Llanarmon again! From memory Ruthins first Job with Mold using DKD was Cae ap Edward Farm to a Barnfire, also attended by Buckley on MP3 with H73HKC. YFM served at Ruthin between leaving Deeside and going as Training WrL/ EFAD appliance. It actually had W8 (Ruthin) on its RTA gear drawers because these were slightly different size on RS appliances to Volvos. RDM360/1V also keeping these on reserve duties, marked W1/E1 respectively. Ruthin had lost NEY certainly by 1991. All petrol engine Dennis were on reserve duties after H72-4HKC being delivered. In 1991 Rhyl were running DKD and RDM360V. DKD was the only one of the batch cascaded by a Mercedes/Angloco (K85SCC).G896DKD being new to (then E8) llangollen, G897DKD to (then W6 Holywell) G899DKD being the only one new to W/T station. Possibly YFM went as a longterm (very longterm) reserve allocation until DKDs transfer.

Added by Gary Simpson on 05 July 2011.
You're deluded pal. YFM went into EFAD afterit came off the run.

Added by Andrew Middleton on 05 July 2011.
Rhyl and Deeside ran as three pump stations until the summer of 1991. At Deesdie H72 HKC, A758LJC and YFM675W. The Fire Authority decided that the third pumps on Rhyl and Deeside stations were surplus to requirement and removed them from the establishment. YFM then was reallocated to Prestatyn to replace NEY286R. YFM stayed at Prestatyn until 1992 when Rhyl had K85 SCC and K32 TCC allocated together. B37 OJC was reallocated to Cerrigydrudion and RJC918T was reallocated to Prestatyn. YFM then went into training school. Having previously had the chance to work in Prestatyn next to the fire station, I saw YFM and RJC turnout many a time from this facility.

Added by Andrew Middleton on 05 July 2011.
#Andy, with all due respect(!) I am not deluded, neither am I am liar, as a serving firefighter in 1990s I will inform you, catagorically that that 1. When I was in Rhyl (1991)for basic training GEY745N Was the Training(LGV), appliance, pal. LJC488R, was the EFAD/ Recruit training appliance. YFM never was at Prestatyn, in late 1991, Perhaps Stan the Man can give you the dates, YFM was on EFAD duties in 1994 from Rhyl, and was part of the changes that brought K69OBG to Manual gearbox training. K85and K32 were allocated seperately to Rhyl due to the differing timescales in Delivery between the Merc/Angloco and Merc/Saxon batches. As was the case with then E1 Wrexham. Having had the chance to turnout to incidents attended by Ruthin and then E9(Mold) I can confirm that YFM was there, I can furnish you with dates if you want, e mail me rather than us bore people on here with details, I kept records of all Turnouts I attended, I was young and keen then! Incidentally I saw a internal note of allocations that had RJC918T at Ruthin with MEY as L4P. just to cloud this further!. When in Prestatyn in 1991 for our carrydown during BT with Gary Wringe, RJC918T was on station. We used NEY289R to get there due to LJC488R failing to start. Lovely ride back to Rhyl and a Pint in The Grange(sadly gone) dodging bosses, KH being in the lounge. Theres lies, damn lies and statistics! YFM

Added by Gary Simpson on 06 July 2011.
Gary

Have you any memories of a MP10(?) at Frigidaire in the 80's?

Adey

Added by Adey on 06 July 2011.
None sorry Adey, I joined in 1991 and work commitments took me from there in 1996. Most memorable to me were Llandudno floods, where travelling from Mold to Llandudno, we passed Buckleys pump (from next to Mold by two miles) pumping out a hotel basement. Also Llandegla moors where after being relieved by Ellesmere Port, we dropped into Wrexham to be met by Tarporleys Dennis on standby. Flint (the only Clwyd pump not at either mountain fire going) having caught fire on a School field in Gwersyllt, with then spare Dodge C256SJC. Some long but happy days!

Added by Gary Simpson on 07 July 2011.
Well, well well, Gary, it seems i've missed something here. I've just been given a 1992 Clwyd fleet list which lists YFM at Ruthin. I apologise for my error and the fact that I missed that one. Fleetlist updated.

Added by Andrew Middleton on 16 July 2011.
No problem Andy, Incidentally, I was on a driver training course with a Rhyl lad, when returning from Chorley, we ran out of fuel on M56 near Frodsham. A off duty wholetimer stopped and picked us up. We left Big Dave and YFM there for him to think an explanation up!

Added by Gary Simpson on 17 July 2011.
Nice one. I bet you didn't get the Yorkie Bar? I can remember YFM on EFAD on blues & twos on Abergele roundabout on two wheels by Macky D's

Added by Andrew Middleton on 17 July 2011.
Prestatyn were allocated YFM in 1993 but only for a few weeks as H72 HKC was to be allocated as our permanent pump. We were given RJC 918T, ex Cerrig, in 1991 to replace NEY 286R. RJC was by far the worst appliance allocated to Prestatyn in modern times.

Added by Ian Herd on 26 December 2012.
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