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1958 Alvis mk6a crash tender
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No: 2343   Contributor: Jason Lester   Year: 2007   Manufacturer: Alvis   Country: United Kingdom
1958 Alvis mk6a crash tender

This crash tender is owned by the RAF fire service museum at wolverhampton a museum i have been the mechanic of for the past 3 yrs these revolutionised fire fighting in the uk and canada being 6wheel drive and 4 wheel steer with a top speed of 60 mph forwards and 60 mph in reverse it was powered by the Rolls Royce B81 MK8H giving 240bhp through a wilson pre selector gear box it was an art to drive one false neutrals were a problem but a very capable machine in good order able to dispence 8000gpm of foam compound per min reliability was a downfall due to its drive train and most were out of service by the late 70's
very rare now this one is preserved by an able team of ex raf boys and me!
Picture added on 07 March 2007
add commentComments:
I believe these had either Foamite and/or Pyrene equipment. Was there any external difference in these? Were any other major firms involved in manufacture of bodywork or pumping equipment? Regards.

Added by Neil Bennett on 24 September 2007.
as far as i am aware these only had Pyrene equipment fitted to them they were produced on the saracen chassis by alvis and and were finished off by pyrene very few differences were noticable between different mk's other than the monitor ect

Added by Jason on 25 September 2007.
great photo used to drive them in the seventies xraf fireman

Added by Ron Moultrie on 29 October 2007.
On Ebay currently there is an original advert for the Salamander chassis (sorry to promote another website!)

Added by Neil Bennett on 29 October 2007.
I am desperate. I am looking for a crash truck. An o-10;o-11b;750c;530c are trucks made in the USA, but I was hoping maybe a couple made it to Canada. If you can locate any of these trucks please call me.
Rhein Krigner
[email protected]

Added by Rhein Krigner on 04 November 2007.
The original Mk VI had a suction eye, CBM hoses on drums and 2, 500gpm monitor, this model was superseded by the Mk VIa the suction eye had been omitted the CBM hoses were flaked, the MkVIc was as the Mk 6a but with a 2, 500/5, 000gpm monitor some MkVI and VIa were converted with 2, 500/5, 000gpm monitor.
Maximum output 5, 000gpm generated foam, expansion ratio approx 14:1 2, 500/5000gpm from the monitor (some models 2, 500gpm see above) 1, 600gpm from each side line. Pump pressure was 160psi this was reduced for sideline operation. 700gallon water tank 110gallon foam concentrate tank 16gallon CBM tank (later 10gallon BCF) 4 Sideline deliveries pre connected to 60feet x 4inch canvas hose dutched rolled (sometimes two hoses were connected together) 2 x 100 feet CBM/BCF hoses. The generated foam was produced by a centrifugal pump and aerated by an air blower and pumped to the branch as finished foam. The prime mover was a Rolls Royce B81 8 in line petrol engine approximately 243bhp connected to the drive via a fluid coupling, the gear box was pre select 5 speed (forward and reverse) driving all 6 wheels via bevel boxes. Top speed was approx 53 MPH The pump was engaged via a PTO with transfer box in neutral, and 5th gear engaged.

Added by David Wickwar on 16 November 2007.
Joined up before these great trucks went out of service 1975, should of keep these instead of the "bread van" Mk 8. Good to see one in such good condition & you say in working order. They were great to make back fire especially as you passed the MT yard! keep up the good work!

Added by Stephen Taylor on 17 December 2007.

Could you contact me re this fire engine, I need to find out its location as my girlfriends granddad used to drive these and is desperate to see one again after retiring many years ago! email [email protected] Thank you!

Added by Marc Asby on 17 May 2008.
In 1976 I was a volunteer member of Leicester Airport Fire Service and we were looking for a low cost vechicle to supplement the Land Rover
The Min Of Defence sales at Ruddington Notts had dozens of these for sale and the price was £60-80 each !!!
However we advised that running costs etc were very diffcult so instead we purchased an ex RAF Thornycroft for £ 150 happy days
take care

Added by Vernon on 09 August 2008.
Used to drive these vehicles at Wittering until they were replaced with the mk8 and 9. The best appliance I have ever driven and I started with the MK5. I have a friend who is after building a model of a MK6 but he needs the diameter of one of it`s wheel`s including the tyre, a horizontal measurement, Anyone?

Added by Bill Sweeting on 25 August 2008.
I think this and other RAF vehicles are at RAF Barkston heath as the museum has relocated and i have had to concentrate on other things!!
this a Mk6 they also have, MK7 MK8 DP1 DP2 red godess etc..

Added by Jason on 03 September 2008.
What a dream machine! Hated "toggling up" every day, each gear was selected with the engine off, then the gear selected and clutch depressed 20 times in each gear. A marvelous machine for cross country travel as it used to float over rough ground, I dont miss changing the tyres though!

Added by John Stott on 01 October 2008.
originally built for the Royal Canadian Airforce Fire services but they wanted it to produce on the move, this had to be static.I Loved driving them in RAF fire service.

Added by Bob Ewing on 20 October 2008.
The original Mark 6 which is pictured here, the monitor and number is wrong, did not produce on the more. The Mark 6A which did not have CBM lines on drums or a suction eye, would produce on the move, you are quite right Bob was a requirement of the Canadian Air Fire, the Canadian version did not carry CBM. The main reason for CBM (later converted to BCF) was to be used by the rescue crew, the rescue crew were seated on the pull down seat above the engine. As far as I know this set up was only used if the ACRT was off the run (it would never be allowed now) Dave Wickwar

Added by Dave Wickwar on 21 October 2008.
Just to confirm Jason's comment. The RAF&DFS museum has relocated to RAF Barston Heath Cranwell Lincolnshire with the crash & domestic trucks.

Added by Bob Ewing on 21 October 2008.
Best Truck RAF had - To Drive - Servicing was a pig = and on runs the suspension used to wind up - Happy Days

Added by Joe B on 20 February 2009.
First time I saw the MK6 was at Binbrook in 1976 and had just been decommisioned but had the pleasure of driving the MK6 at RAF Catterick in 1978....under tow that is....Great vehicle, great foam.....same as Mk7 and 8. great to see one in great nick.

Added by Mark (Scouse) Watson on 29 April 2009.
I think there was at least one bodied by Foamite. If I remember correctly it was better finished, and had the Francis electric bell mounted behind a front grille.

Added by Tim Wingham on 27 May 2009.
I had the pleasure of re-activating the engine and drive on one of these for the guys at the Fire Museum, RAF Manston.It had been towed around for display and familiarisation training for the last fifteen years, but never under it's own steam, so to speak.
After a day's work, the engine was running as sweetly as ever, and within a month it was the star of the performance at the War and Peace show at Beltring. It was huge fun to drive.

Added by Stan Tarrant on 14 July 2009.
Mk6 at Barkston Heath and formerly the RAF Fire Service museum which I started is ex RAF Coningsby The only reason we didn't end up with the MK6 I drove on the crash line at RAF Finningley in1973 was because it had to be scrapped due to seized up steering and we couldn't move it up to my front garden along with the other. It was great the day I started it up after 30 years in 2004. The backfire nearly shattered my greenhouse. Happy days

Added by David Hughes (ex 6 driver and RAFfireman) on 03 March 2010.
My Father drove one of these at RAF Pershore, Royal Radar Research Base, in the 60's. He thought it was a great machine. I stood in the cab as a teenager, would love too see one again. Anyone know where one is kept. Thanks

Added by Ian Lisseman on 10 June 2011.
Wish this was still in my front garden as it was when I first had it running 7 yeras ago. The backfire from the exhaust put my chickens off laying for a week!!! Still it was worth it to be the only one to drive this magnificent piece of firefighting technology on the public road again even if that was only for the hour it took to get it onto a low loader. We had great times in 2004 restoring this to the condition in the photo.

Added by David Hughes (ex RAFmk6 driver) on 10 June 2011.
I was a Mk 6 driver in the 60s. I was one of the lucky ones as most sections I was on were short of Mk 6 drivers so most duties were on the Mk 6, I remember when I was stationed at RAF Wyton when the 6 was left ticking over for a while, the fluid coupling overheated and it literally blew up, never to go again, taken away on a low loader, but I must say it was always a favourite all round with the lads, I was also stationed at St Athan when the driving school was there, we got in with the instructors and had some good times on the school Mk 6s, they were a cab and concrete on the back in place of the water tank, great times, great vehicles. great fun.
John Irwin, (ex RAF fireman)

Added by John Irwin on 17 November 2011.
I used to drive mkv1 at wittering 73/76 the
best I've ever driven.

Added by Dougie Hurst on 21 November 2011.
For anyone still, like me, interested in the MK6 "Salamander" Crash Truck here is a tip! Get a copy of "Alvis Saracen Family" written by Bill Munro (ISBN 1 86126 537 9) and read chapter 5 "The Salamander". Answers many questions, ie Pyrene/Foamite equipment: The RCAF G19 what was it?: the 8 x 8 MK7 ?: pictures and all the technical stuff too!
Got mine for my Birthday, if you have an interest put it on your Christmas list. This is not an advert in any way, just the best info. and pic's I've found in an 18 month search for information about the vehicle my father drove at RAF Pershore. He was Leading Fireman/Instructor Reg Lisseman.
Anyone who know's anything please contact me.

Added by Ian Lisseman on 21 November 2011.
I owned one of these back in 1973 briefly... it was an ex-RCAF Somerside truck. Had it in Saint John, NB. It was 1956 or 58 as I recall. it was a toy for me... just because. Some salvage yard in Fredericton had three of them ...

Added by David E Baird on 13 January 2012.
I have the A.P.4576B which was for the Mk 6, 6A, and 6C, (volume 1 and vloume 6) that is very interesting reading, brings back loads of memories, also an A.P. 957.
John Irwin, (ex RAF fireman)

Added by John Irwin on 14 January 2012.
Just a matter of interest the different marks of the Mk 6 is as follows
The original Mk 6 had a suction eye, the CBM (later BCF) hoses on drums, and had a 2500 GPM monitor.
Mk 6A did not have a suction eye; the CBM (later BCF) hoses were flaked in, and had a 2500 GPM monitor.
Mk 6C same as Mk 6A but had a 2500/5000 GPM monitor.
Mk 6B same as the Mk 6 but converted to a 2500/5000 GPM monitor.
Mk 6D same as the Mk 6A but converted to a 2500/5000 GPM monitor.

Added by Dave Wickwar on 15 January 2012.
John, my favourite bit in AP957 was that "station firemen are exempt from other station duties". Never a parade or orderly duty in twelve years. suited me fine :)

Added by Firebum on 15 January 2012.
Lucky David Baird. this is an expensive toy as they were a pig to keep serviceable. As any ex RAF MT mechanic. A Few updates on production nd speed etc as I am an ex Mk 6 Driver. 45 MPH was the top speed and 5000gpm of foam could be produced using either the monitor on 5000 gpm or the two sidelines (branchpipes) at 2500 gpm each. Absolutely fantastic vehicle to drive on an airfield (or around Cardiff on your driving test for that matter). Great fun flattening all the bunny holes dug by our little furry friends down the undershoot at Finningley after refuelling on a Monday morning. They dug them over the weekend and I flattened them on a Monday while bouncing around to release the tension in the hubs after the drive to the airmans mess and back.

Added by David Hughes on 15 January 2012.
Top speed was 53 MPH in 5th at 4000 RPM (max RPM was governed to 4000 RPM) optimum RPM was 3200 it was normally driven between 2500 and 3500 RPM. Crash start was 4000 RPM in each gear.
Foam production was Maximum 5000 GPM. Monitor 2500/5000 Sideline 1600 GPM Pump pressure 160 PSI. 9000 gallons of foam on a tank of water (700 gallons) in 1.8 minutes at maximum. Foam compound carried was 110 gallons.
Foam system was blown foam by means of an 800 cu ft per minute generator, pumped as foam through 4 inch x 60 feet canvas hose.
Also carried 16 gallons of CBM discharged through 2 x 100 feet hoses, later converted to 10 gallons of BCF pressurized to 125 PSI.

Added by Dave Wickwar on 16 January 2012.
While I am no expert, only being a retired Country Fire Service Officer in Australia, I seem to remember being told that both Pyrene and Foamite built these units and the different makes was identified by having the cab doors swung from the rear edge on Pyrene and front edge on Fomite

Added by Ron Kennedy on 18 January 2012.
You are right Ron, the foamite Mk 6 had the doors hinged at the front, believe they were made for the RCAF and they had to produce foam on the move, they did not have CBM/BCF lines accessible from the outside, as the all the Pyrene did. They may have been used in the UK on civilian airfields. I have never seen a RAF foamite MK6 don’t know if they had any. I was a Mk6 driver for 10 years+ until they were withdrawn from service.

Added by Dave Wickwar on 22 January 2012.
I have 3 pictures of the ex RCAF unit I owned if that helps.

Added by David Baird on 23 January 2012.
During my service time 67/83 no Mk6 was used on civil airfields, only if they were a joint civil/military airfield and fire fighting crews were RAF personnel.

Added by Bobe on 23 January 2012.
I drove these throughout the 60, s. MkVIa modified Braking from MKVI. A great veh to drive. Army varients had more clutch problems doe to job required of them. Crew even managed to write one off in Wildenrath (Jan 63) trying to jump a wide dyke on route to a practice crash. Driver had no knowledge of Dyke owing to thick covering of snow that year.

Added by Harry Blunden (Frey) on 11 February 2012.
Can somebody please tell me if there is a museum at barkston heath? Cannot find anything on the web at all.

Added by Andrew Hunt on 26 June 2012.
There will be a museum at Scampton soon. Steve Shirley is currently refurbishing it.

Added by JoeB on 26 June 2012.
thank you joe for that info, my dad was a mk 6 driver from 1958 to when he got demob from kinloss in 68.i'l take him to see it when it opens.thanks again

Added by Andrew Hunt on 26 June 2012.
One of the Mk 6's at Scampton belongs to the RAF &Defence Fire Service association. It was originally given to me when we brought it up to the Midlands from Sussex in Dec 2003. It was then moved to Halfpenny Green airport to the RADF fire Service Museum Bill and I opened in 2005 after I was given the use of a building. Unfortunately due to regrettable circumstances the museum had to close a year later and the vehicles were all taken away to Barkston Heath for storage. I still have RAF Cottesmore's original ACRT on a Series 2 landrover chassis and am slowly restoring it. I am just rebuilding the powder equipment at the moment in my garage in Southampton. If anyone wants to come and see how it's coming on let me know.

Added by David Hughes on 27 June 2012.
Dave I attended a Canberra crash in that in Aug72 2300hrs near the Fox and hounds pub on the A1

Added by Bob Ewing on 27 June 2012.
Steve Shirley is displaying some of his collection at RAF Waddington Airshow on Sunday 1 July 2012

Added by Joe Birt on 27 June 2012.
Are there any photographs of Steve Shirley's display at RAF Waddington - please! I couldn't get there

Added by Ian Lisseman on 06 July 2012.
Relating to Barkston Heath, did many crash crew duties there late 60, s. Veteran crash-fire vehicles which were looked after by RAF Fire service Assoc are no longer there.

Added by Harry (Frey) on 06 July 2012.
There will be a web site for the Museum of RAF Fire Fighting very soon and I will post a link on here when it's up and running. Visitors are welcome to visit the Museum at RAF Scampton to view Steve's fine collection of RAF and other vintage Fire Engines, including a running MK6. Saturday's are currently the best day for visits, if anyone interested gets in touch with me I will pass details on.

Also, any of you guys on here that have any manuals, technical knowledge, spare parts! of the MK6 we would love to hear from you! We have a runner that we would like to have in pristine condition!

Added by Dave Jenner on 15 July 2012.
Hi Dave Jenner,

I have agenuine copy of A.P.4576b vol.1 and vol 6 named as, fire crash truck, ( g.p. alvis 6 by6, ) mk, 6, mk6a and mk6c, , it seems to be all very much intact, would you or the museum be interested? I only wish I lived closer because you would never get rid of me, the mk6 was the best.

Note from Editor: John if you want to conttact Dave Jenner, just click on the blue name and you can sent a private e-mail to him.

Added by John Irwin ex 60s raf fireman driver on 15 July 2012.
The reg number is wrong, this appliance used to be at Newark Air Museum & is 23AG90

Added by Ken Reid on 15 October 2012.
Ken you are correct it has the wrong number plate, however its not 23AG90 its 23AG70 and I have a photo of the chassis plate which confirms this

Added by Wayne Davies on 16 October 2012.
The Foamite Salamanders were built solely for the South African Air Force which had seven. There were 3 Pyrenes in Ceylon, 33 Pyrenes to Canada and one Pyrene to the British Army. The rest were to the RAF. There are two Pyrenes with Steve Shirleys collection at Scampton.

Added by Ronald Henderson on 16 October 2012.
See earlier posts regards Canadian order for these

Added by Bob ewing on 16 October 2012.
Been searching the Internet for info & pictures on this crash truck. Came across one at rcaf station Chatham , nb in summer of 1968 while working at base as part of a paving crew. Looked it over , inside as well, got a look at Rolls Royce engine & actually , after almost 46 yrs , the engine manufacturer was the only real lead I had to track it down. So happy to have found this website! I was only 17 at the time & this crash truck was & still is fascinating.

Added by Winston Nowlan on 25 April 2014.
Winston, try looking at this site I'm one of the volunteers and am working at the restoration of what we believe to be the last original and running Mk6. If you look on utube and search 'Alvis Salamander' you will also find some short clips of the vehicle on the run. Dave

Added by David Jenner on 29 April 2014.
In Fredericton, a salvage yard had a few of them... I ended up with one, from another source in Saint John, owned it briefly with a thought of special parade use... but it was going to require repairs I could not afford to do at the time. (1973)

Added by David Baird on 29 April 2014.

I live in MB, Canada and recently acquired a 1958 Alvis fire truck with manual etc. what is something like this worth? I have no idea on this and don't really want it.

Added by Leah on 26 May 2014.
Hi, We recently acquired a 1958 Alvis Firetruck and were wondering what they are worth if anything? it has a rolls Royce engine, all parts are there. This is not something we know anything about. but are thinking of selling it!

Added by Leah on 26 May 2014.
Leah, is it the same as the one on the photo on here? If so it is could be one of about a dozen or so that were built by Pyrene for the Royal Canadian Airforce. I would be most interested to known and could possibly give you some idea of the value.

Added by David Jenner on 29 May 2014.
Please let me know where you are and I would come and have a look at it. I am in Hampshire and might be interested in the vehicle as I am a former Alvis Mk 6 driver. Email me on [email protected]

Added by David Hughes on 30 May 2014.
Hello, The Alvis is in Fraserwood, Manitoba. As far as I can see all parts are there, as we have had some people want the Rolls Royce motor and the Pyrene canisters, but I am holding off waiting to see if there is any intrest in this machine as a whole. you can send me an email at [email protected]

Added by Leah on 05 June 2014.
Please do not break this machine for spares. It is as rare as hens teeth. Donate it to a museum like the RCAF. This is history.

Added by John Stott on 06 June 2014.
Leah, I can only back up John Stott's comment. You have there a rare item from the RCAF past. The Alvis/Pyrene units called the G19 by the RCAF were shipped to Canada early 1958. It was innovative as it was required to "Pump on the move" which the original RAF version did not. Also it had no CBM nor air-powered tools facility. 34 were ordered, 5 were kept in Europe, England, France and Germany at RCAF bases of which none survive. I have searched the web for traces of G19's in Canada but have only found information on them being scrapped !! Please check with RCAF Museums and interest groups in Canada as I am sure they would love to get an example on show. There are about 3 or 4 MK6 variants surviving in the UK out of some 80 supplied with only one drivable. See "" and search "Alvis MK6" on U-tube. PLEASE SAVE THIS VEHICLE.

Added by Ian Lisseman on 06 June 2014.
To break such an iconic machine as the Mk6 would be sacrilege. If only I won the Lotto.

Added by JoeB on 06 June 2014.
Fantastic picture of the Mk6. Became 6 driver before being posted to Gan[Stalwart for reef rescue].Being a 6 driver was great as they could go anywhere, and when you saw them on a practice crash it was very impressive.

Added by Alan Curtis on 15 June 2014.
I used to drive one of those we called it the g19 RCAF I was stationed at Cold Lake Alberta from 63 to 67 what beautiful ride

Added by Donald Duthie on 26 September 2014.
tO Donald Duthie - believe the G19 RCAF was fitted with a cab heater because of severe weather. Is this true.

Added by Ian Lisseman on 01 October 2014.
Good Morning,

This unit is still for sale, and I need this gone from my shed, I have no interest in restoring. So if anyone would like to purchase this unit, please contact. I am not rich so please don't ask me to donate. Thanks

Added by Leah Taylor-Engbaek on 01 October 2014.
It would be safe to assume your machine came off the base at Gimli? I am not sure of time, but I will be in Sask later this month. email me your contact info.

Added by David E Baird on 01 October 2014.

No this unit came from the Army base out of Portage la prairie. Its been in this shed for over 25 yrs in that time it was driven around the farm. I also just recently acquired the manual. [email protected] I need this gone or I will part out and use body for a paintball course, I don't have another year to wait and see if there is an interest.

Added by Leah Taylor-Engbaek on 02 October 2014.
It was a great machine. I used to drive them.
I was in from 1958 - 1973

Added by Ray Milne on 31 October 2014.
I drove the Alvis Salamander for 20 years.It was known as the G19 in the RCAF fire service. I am currently building a 1:17 scale model of this fascinating truck. I contacted the lady in Manitoba who has one in her barn. Then I called the director of the Canadian Air Force museum in
Trenton, On. and put him in touch with the lady. I told him the G19 was very popular with the fire
fighters and would make a great museum exhibit.

Added by Mel Burton, retired RCAF firefighter on 10 November 2014.
Western Development Museum in Moose Jaw might be another interested party.

Added by David E Baird on 13 November 2014.
Great Effort Mel. That was a long association with the G19? Hope something comes from your effort.

Added by Ian Lisseman on 13 November 2014.
Thank you for doing that Mel. It would be a total travesty if this machine is not saved for posterity.
At the RAF Fire School as recruits, we were shown an RCAF film of the G19 ( our beloved Mk6 ) performing, it actually spurred many of us on to qualify and ultimately go on to become drivers of this classic. I never in my career came across a machine that handled cross country so well, at such speed.
Best Wishes.

Added by John Stott on 13 November 2014.
My father drove these from RAF MANSTON to RAF VALLY ANGLESEY in the 60s-mid 70s as he was a fireman at vally by the nane john Griffiths (john griff)

Added by Alwyn Griffiths on 29 January 2015.
Given the "wind-up" these MK6's suffered from that sounds like a very long road trip? Did they do anything to avoid it, I believe running on and off any kerb or finding a bit of rough ground was a usual "cure"!! My father drove the one at RAF Pershore.

Added by Ian Lisseman on 30 January 2015.
Could anyone tell me on what the Foam Monitor Operator stood to use the equipment. I know there is a hatch above the r/hand seat so I'm presuming that is for the monitor operator, is there a stand behind the seat ?

Added by John R Hornsby on 31 January 2015.
we used to get on to the grass verges or even the central reservation to try to get rid of the wind up, all good fun at the time, LOL.

Added by John Irwin on 04 February 2015.
I sent a note to the Western Development Museum, to see if there is interest in the Manitoba truck.

Added by David Baird on 04 February 2015.
Does anyone else remember this incident. RAF Cranwell, North (Grass) airfield between 66-69. Practice Crash. Trundling over the grass, comes a call from the DP Dvr. Your air pak from back bracket has just fallen off. The V1 stopped and a crew member jumped out to pick up the air pak. The Dvr thinking I,ll back up to save the crewman carrying it too far. Seeing nothing in side mirrors carried on backing up until lo and behold there was the crewman lying on the grass with the air pak. The Mk V1 had driven over him and he had sunk slightly into the wet grass. Luckily he was, unhurt, and we all had a laugh about it. But it could have turned out a deadly experience. Harry (Frey)

Added by Harry Blunden on 04 February 2015.

I am the person who has this in barn in MB we have advertised for over 2 yrs. we have not had any interest other than us giving for free. .. We are now going to part it out with the Motor being the first thing to go.. As I need my barn Respectfully.

Added by Leah on 05 February 2015.
Harry Blunden I was with you at RAF Wildenrath remember? we had some great times in your Fiat 500
please contact me [email protected]

Added by Ray Milne on 05 February 2015.
Leah, some time ago we exchanged a couple of emails and I asked if you could take a couple of photographs of the vehicle that I could circulate through various historic forums. A picture paints a thousand words as someone once said. Still time to get a picture to me and have it circulated by the wonder of the WWW. [email protected] Please don't be letting this possible last remaining vehicle of only about 15 be broken up! Dave

Added by Dave Jenner on 05 February 2015.
Leah, please can I back up Dave Jenner's comments. We only have three of the Mk6 version saved in the UK, only one of which is, after a lot of work, a runner. It would be a great shame if this Canadian version was to be lost.

Added by Ian Lisseman on 06 February 2015.
If you were to donate the MB truck to a museum, you might realize a significant tax write-off in lieu of parting it out.

Added by David Baird on 06 February 2015.
Hello Gentleman,

The doors on the barn are very heavy and locked, I don't go to the property on a daily basis especially in the winter Mr. Jenner, and have no intention of going there in the winter..I will try to accommodate your request in spring..As for me donating, we have looked into this avenue and it would costs us a significant amount of money to have someone come out from wpg, we pay travel and then also paying for time to get out of barn and then travel again..Respectfully I have no attachments to this truck and it's actually been a headache, I have offered this for sale for over 2 years and nobody wants to buy it, So it's my feeling everyone wants to save it but at my expense literally. I am not a rich woman and feel I have searched out those who might have an interest, hence me joining this group and advertising like crazy, which again is another expense . I have a solid offer on the table for the Rolls Royce Motor and the Transmission. I have put the operating Manual as another selling feature, with some only wanting that. I have went out of my way for this piece of history, however I am a country girl and I have had to board my horses another expense due to this truck, and I am out of patience. As for the tax receipt that means nothing to me as I am not in a high tax bracket I need the money. Respectfully

Added by Leah on 06 February 2015.
FAO Ian, I know of at least 6 that are still around in the UK in various states of repair...

Added by Gordon Smith on 09 February 2015.
With respect Leah I was not aware of the circumstances you have detailed above, but I did try to get a dialogue going with you some time back in an attempt to help out. There are not many of us left in the UK who know much about the truck let alone in Canada, which is why I suspect you may not of had very much interest. It would be highly unlikely that any interested parties would be looking at you having to bear any costs; in fact more likely that the right parties would be willing to make a financial arrangement with you. I appreciate it might be difficult for you to get a photograph at the moment, but I would implore you to try to get one at the earliest opportunity. I suspect the interest may have to come from this side of the Atlantic but without seeing a picture or two of the vehicle it is almost impossible to conjure up interest. Kind regards Dave

Added by Dave Jenner on 10 February 2015.
Hi Leah
Can only reiterate previous comments.If you could release a single photo onto the web , enthusiasts here would be able to spread it around and have a good chance of finding a buyer. Many old British trucks are being re-imported to UK from around the world .

Added by Craig on 11 February 2015.
Sad to think that the ex Finningley mk6 that was at the motor museum in Sussex had to be scrapped because we were unable to get it to go in a straight line to the lowloader in 2003. Also sad to have to scrap the Bruntingthorpe vehicle after spending so much time getting it to Halfpenny Green.No one is interested when money is involved. I know! I was seriously out of pocket for the one which ended up at Scampton but Hey ho that's life. The lady in Canada has my condolences but they are expensive toys. Iam looking into having a diecast model made but I will need to be able to sell 5000 to break even. any takers out there?

Added by David Hughes on 11 February 2015.
just uploaded a photo of a MK6

Added by David Hughes on 11 February 2015.
Hi, is this vehicle still for sale ? Is it in running condition ?

Added by Philip on 09 June 2015.
It's still in the shed. We will be pulling it out in the next 2 weeks

Added by Leah on 20 June 2015.
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Added by Lindsey on 02 April 2016.
I was 20 in the 60s and drove one at RAF marham as a young raf fireman they were exciting to drive especially when you had to take them out in a morning and get them to take off to unwind the transmition, great memories !!!!!

Added by Colin Lister on 01 March 2018.
I was on service trials for the Mk6 at Royal Air Force Kenley in 1957, best crash truck I have ever driven. The Royal Air Force Fire Museum is now re-locating to Gainsborough in Lincolnshire, to open this year 2018. All my best wishes to ex and serving firefighters.

Added by Barry Middleton Ex Cpl on 13 April 2018.
Dear Leah,

your vehicle needs saving for sure. I have contacted a museum locally to me to see if they will take it and am sending info to a friend in BC also. We should talk, it is wonderful that you have saved it and not scrapped it. I am on your side and want to see it go to a good home.

Added by Robin Craig on 24 April 2018.
Dear Leah, I am trying to help you get this saved. I am in Ontario and have contacted a museum here who may be interested.

Added by Robin Craig on 24 April 2018.
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Added by Bob Ewing on 25 April 2018.
I recall they looked bigger than they really are, worked on these when in the RAF 1973 in Cyprus, happy days.

Added by Phil Jackson Ex SAC RAF on 14 July 2018.
I used to service these at RAF Colerne, around 1968. You had to tie all the spanners and screwdrivers by string to your wrists, and hang almost upside down into the rear engine compartment to do any maintenance! If you dropped a tool, it was bye bye until the next time the engine camre out !

Added by RogerAdams on 16 August 2018.
My last posting in the RAF was to RAF Driffield. Worked in the MU Servicing these beasts, and getting them ready for storage 1972-1974.

Added by Derek Nadin on 11 October 2018.
Derek Nadin your comment getting them ready for storage properly explains why the one at the Museum of RAF Firefighting had brand new hardly bed in brake shoes all round.

Added by Dave on 13 October 2018.
I did the mk6 course Sept60 Bob Westwood was my instructor, drove the mk6 at Marham, Binbrook, Akrotiri( drove this when a javelin crashed in the bomb dump on approach)Waddington and Fairford.When at Binbrook l had to change all the tyres using a sledgehammer and tyre lever what a job.Those false neutrals made you curse.Remove the panel under central arch to drain the compound tank.Fold up seat on top of the engine

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