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Carmicheal Mark 12A
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No: 23208   Contributor: Ivan Hurst   Year: 2007   Manufacturer: Carmichael   Country: United Kingdom
Carmicheal Mark 12A

My Carmicheal Mark 12A parked up at the War and Peace Show 2007. I am told by Carmicheal that this is one of only two made. I am currently restoring it.
Picture added on 11 May 2010 at 07:09
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Imagine owning a monster like this,i don't think it would fit into my garage !
Really interesting piece of kit.

Added by Bristol Bob on 11 May 2010.
there was 1 out in Cyprus at RAF Fire Service Akrotiri

Added by Bobe on 11 May 2010.
Bobe,
Thanks for the comment. Do you recall when you saw the Mark12A with ladder in Cyprus. I am trying to build up a history of mine.
Regards
Ivan

Added by Ivan Hurst on 12 May 2010.
There was only ever one MK 12a build it was 10AY98 chassis No 72395 it served all its life at brize Norton. Akrotiri had similar looking MK11a 02AY28 chassis No WHV 62113 with the hi access ladder.

Added by Ted Angus on 13 May 2010.
There we are Ted I thought it was a Mk12 cause they were to be fitted with high access kits glad you got that cleared up anyway mate.

Added by Bobe on 13 May 2010.
Thanks Ted. the reg and chassis no. match my vehicle.

Added by Ivan Hurst on 14 May 2010.
I remember driving this vehicle during my time at Brize as a member of the RAF Fire Service, it ran out of the old crash section know demolished and replaced by the new section, the Navy had Mk12's but without the sky ladder

Added by Gordon Smith on 15 May 2010.
We are at present refurbishing Mk11 02 AY 26 which had the access ladder but has long been removed.

Added by Mark Wildon on 16 May 2010.
Your're brave taking something like this on. Am I right in thinking the RAF did'nt keep these machines all that long? If so: why not ? Why does yours look so worn ?

Added by Norman Brunt on 05 June 2010.
How high can that platform (?) reach?

Added by David Jones on 02 July 2010.
Thank you all for your help and comments. I am building a history and tech website for my Mark12A. If any of you have information or stories about it or your time using it I would appriciate your input. Also, there is a significant hole in the history, which I assume is when it got neglected. Any help in filling that gap? Ted is correct about there only being one built. I have spoken to Carmichael again and they kindly sent me information from their workshop journal confirming only one. I am also creating short histories of Carmichael and Scammell / Unipower. All contributions welcome. It is still in relative early days of full restoration,so any tips on that would also be welcome. (too late for the dont start tip). And finally, I dont know how high the platform can reach yet as I have yet to get it to work. I will put the result on by website and reply here.
Again, thanks to everyone.
Regards Ivan


EDITOR: You can email Ivan by clicking on his name (in blue) if you have more info for him or want to get in touch with him

Added by Ivan Hurst on 03 July 2010.
The 10a 11a & 12a were tried out at Brize if I remember rightly. The high access were fitted for the Tri Starsmay. I have some pics lying about somewhere, will try too look them out.

Added by Alistair Forrest on 09 October 2010.
Hi Ivan, amazing to still see this standing after the chequered life it had, I was an RAF MT Mech/Tech at Brize in the 90's and did plenty of work on it. That hydraulic ladder was a nightmare and if memory serves me right eventually got strapped down as it was deemed too unsafe to use so I don't think you will ever see how high it goes. I did however have the unfortunate experience of testing it's height reach in the hangar and remember being pushed through the false ceiling by it as one of my colleagues had overridden the controls from the basket to the vehicle. I had to squat down in the basket. Best of luck with the restoration, let me know where and when you show it, be good to see it when finished.

Added by Adie Taylor on 18 June 2015.
An update about the Mark 12A. This morning it joined the collection of the Museum of RAF Fire Fighting.

Added by Ivan Hurst on 22 March 2019.
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