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Roof Fire - Worthing, West Sussex 1993
March 1993. Dennis SS137/Carmicheal E613 JBP, and reserve Dennis R133 OTR 211S in attendance at a guest house on Worthing seafront dealing with a roof space fire. This was a 4 pump fire, with Findon attending along with Worthings 3rd appliance, although this location is almost on Lancings fireground.
E613 JBP was Worthings 2nd full time crewed WTL (0112) from 1987 - 1995 but this was one of the rare occassions that it was running as the first away (0111), due to 2 reserve appliances being on station at Worthing for a short time. OTR 211S was new to Shoreham in 1978, had 8 years at Arundel from 1980, and then a 3 years as 2nd appliance at East Preston before travelling the county as a reserve until 1995. She was sold into preservation, for a time at Shoreham airport - does anyone know where she is now? Jon.
March 1993. Dennis SS137/Carmicheal E613 JBP, and reserve Dennis R133 OTR 211S in attendance at a guest house on Worthing seafront dealing with a roof space fire. This was a 4 pump fire, with Findon attending along with Worthings 3rd appliance, although this location is almost on Lancings fireground.
E613 JBP was Worthings 2nd full time crewed WTL (0112) from 1987 - 1995 but this was one of the rare occassions that it was running as the first away (0111), due to 2 reserve appliances being on station at Worthing for a short time. OTR 211S was new to Shoreham in 1978, had 8 years at Arundel from 1980, and then a 3 years as 2nd appliance at East Preston before travelling the county as a reserve until 1995. She was sold into preservation, for a time at Shoreham airport - does anyone know where she is now? Jon.
Correction on my message of 6/2/2011 the reg of the "R"reg at East Preston should have read LOW 306R not 307R, sorry about that, LOW 306R was new to Crawley, moving to East Preston in 1979, LOW 307R was new to Worthing in 1979 running as both 1st & 2nd pump before transfer to Lancing in 1981.
Added by Martyn West on 07 February 2011.
Added by Martyn West on 07 February 2011.
Hi Martyn, I have to confess to not being 100% sure about OTR211S but my records suggest it went to 1st away at East Preston with LOW 306R dropping back to second. Can't really remember as they both looked similar! Thanks for the date when F23 OCR went on the run at Arundel. Re LOW307R can you help - I can only remember it as being new as 1st appliance at worthing, but have a photo from Pete Matten in the position of the second pump and F49 DPX 636L in the first bay? - I know it was 2nd at Worthing when TCR 351T arrived - might just be an "odd" photo as the BACV is where the 3rd WTL should be, but it would be good to know for certain. Thanks, Jon.
Added by Jon Godden on 08 February 2011.
Added by Jon Godden on 08 February 2011.
Dear Jon
Re East Preston, yes this is correct OTR 211S(WRL1), just you mentioned it as WRL(2).Re:LOW 307R at Worthing, arrived as WRL(1)1977, DPX 636L dropped down to WRL(2) from WRL(1), WRL(3) was GBP 998N Dennis DJ.
1979 TCR 351T Dennis R133 arrives as WRL(1), LOW 307R drops down to WRL(2), DPX 636L drops down WRL(2) to WRL(3), GBP 998N moves to Reserve, do you agree?
Added by Martyn West on 09 February 2011.
Re East Preston, yes this is correct OTR 211S(WRL1), just you mentioned it as WRL(2).Re:LOW 307R at Worthing, arrived as WRL(1)1977, DPX 636L dropped down to WRL(2) from WRL(1), WRL(3) was GBP 998N Dennis DJ.
1979 TCR 351T Dennis R133 arrives as WRL(1), LOW 307R drops down to WRL(2), DPX 636L drops down WRL(2) to WRL(3), GBP 998N moves to Reserve, do you agree?
Added by Martyn West on 09 February 2011.
Hi Martyn, Yes I agree 100% with the above - must just have been an odd photo that Pete gave me - looks like a saturday morning when they were out on the forecourt whilst the bays were washed. Happy days - not quite the same with 4 Scanias at Worthing! Any idea what happened to OTR 211S as it was initially bought for preservation? I wish DPX636L had survived, one of my all time favourites. Thanks Jon.
Added by Jon Godden on 10 February 2011.
Added by Jon Godden on 10 February 2011.
Dear Jon
Re:OTR 211S last seen in compound at Shoreham Airport.
DPX 636L was broken up at Chatfields, North Mundham
Nr Chichester, we had a sister machine WPO 477K at Chichester, a superb motor, my favourite to ride on.
Added by Martyn West on 16 February 2011.
Re:OTR 211S last seen in compound at Shoreham Airport.
DPX 636L was broken up at Chatfields, North Mundham
Nr Chichester, we had a sister machine WPO 477K at Chichester, a superb motor, my favourite to ride on.
Added by Martyn West on 16 February 2011.
was JBP always striped like that or was it re-striped at some point? wondering if it was striped the same as the R series' at any time?
Added by Oliver Todd on 04 February 2023.
Added by Oliver Todd on 04 February 2023.
Yes Oliver E613JBP was always in that livery - those style of stripes started with the 4 "C " reg Dennis DS151/Carmichael appliances delivered in 1986, although they only had the stripe on the cab, and not the bodywork. The "R" series had red stripes seen here added, and some, but not all, had the same style stripes as E613JBP added later in their life, i.e TCR349T when stationed at Findon.
Added by Jon Godden on 05 February 2023.
Added by Jon Godden on 05 February 2023.
I think you find E613JBP went OTR as WRL(1) not WRL(2) on 23/2/1988, with B417UBP dropping down to WRL(2), E613JBP was replaced as WRL(1) 16/6/1992, moving to WRL(2), where it remained as you say to 1995 when it became WRL(3).
Added by Martyn West on 06 February 2023.
Added by Martyn West on 06 February 2023.
The "E"Reg SS137s and the "F"Reg DSs did not have striping on the front grille when delivered, this was added later to to match cab sides and rear bodywork header panel.
Added by Martyn West on 06 February 2023.
Added by Martyn West on 06 February 2023.
Hi Martyn, you normally have much better, accurate info than me, but I'm sure E613JBP started as the 2nd WRL (0112) - agree OTR date of Feb 1988, with B417UBP remaining as the first WTRL for 8 years before going to the retained pump, and having its stripes changed from red to the orange variety and the front ones added at that time. All my photos of that era show E613JBP in the 4th bay at Worthing, and B417UBP in the first bay. I remember being told that E613JBP was made the 2nd when new as 0112 was busier than 0111. Jon
Added by Jon Godden on 08 February 2023.
Added by Jon Godden on 08 February 2023.
Dennis
Just a query on OTR 211S at East Preston, F23 OCR went OTR at Arundel on 28/4/89, OTR 211S moved to East Preston I believe as the 1st Pump, with LOW 307R dropping to 2nd pump, replacing JCR 325P Dennis "D". Are you saying that LOW 307R remained as the 1st at East Preston, with OTR 211S as the 2nd? Nice to see your photos of the early 90s
Added by Martyn West on 06 February 2011.