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Commer HCB ET 148 DDM
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No: 20480   Contributor: Petros   Year: 1976   Manufacturer: Commer   Country: United Kingdom
Commer HCB ET 148 DDM

the hot summer of 1976 and the Great Drought was too much for this old machine. It broke down near the village of Rhosllanerchrugog(!) near Wrexham. This is a ex Denbighshire appliance.
Picture added on 09 November 2009 at 19:46
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Again ex Flintshire. Allocated to Connah's Quay fire station on Church Road in 1962. Moved to Chester Street West, Queensferry in 1963 when the current Deeside fire station opened.

Added by Andy Middleton on 10 November 2009.
Is this the Ex Deeside ET that ended its days in Colwyn Bay as a CIU after Deeside was allocated the Range Rover Rescue Tender?

Added by Gary Simpson on 13 November 2009.
This appliance never served at Colwyn Bay. The first CIU that Clwyd ran was a two axel caravan which was towed to incidents by the Range Rover L6R at Deeside. The CU trailer was towed by the Rhyl Range Rover L6R. They were both converted by Lynton Trailers 1n 1986 and returned to their home stations with Bedford TL850 tractor units and in 1992 both were transferred to Colwyn Bay. 148 DDM was left looking derilict around the back of Deeside and sold out of service in 1979 to a member of the public in Manchester via Stoodley's and he converted it into a moblie chippy.

Added by Andy Middleton on 23 November 2009.
You have obviously never read the poem about her penned by a long serving Deeside Firefighter(as they call them now). The last lines being "our finest hour,our mobile shower!,You can keep your Colwyn Bay." Find an old Aquarius staff mag the potted poetic history was in an old one. Also there was no CIU at Deeside in 1991/2 just the aforementioned "shower in a box". We had the pleasure of trying to stuff said large box and 6 man crew in LJC489R(then a reserve) to go to Graessers Lab in Sandycroft on a make up

Added by Gary Simpson on 23 November 2009.
As a matter of fact, yes I have. I know Ray Cook very well. This appliance NEVER ran out of Colwyn bay and was NEVER converted into a CIU.

Added by Andy Middleton on 23 November 2009.
So what did go up there? CU wasn't in Rhyl in 1991 either I think it went to Sleepy Valley(sorry Colwyn Bay!) when HQ used to be there,and never moved back when HQ moved to Rhyl.Nice soft bushes at Rhyl ideal for senior officers to fall in after HMI dinners. God Ray Cook now theres a book that should be written!

Added by Gary Simpson on 24 November 2009.
Both artics C477REY and C478REY and CU and CIU trailers went to W2 about 1990.

Added by Andy Middleton on 24 November 2009.
Andy,when did this receive Red/White chequer markings do you know? And why if she didn't serve as a CU/CIU? It seems pointless.

Added by Gary Simpson on 05 December 2009.
The two ET's arrived with the chequer markings on them from HCB-Angus. 148 DDM arrived from HCB in 1962 and replaced a Bedford van BUN 969 and Rhyl's arrived in 1965 replacing an Austin K2 ATV GLR 91. Both ran as divisional CU's combined with their primary role of ET. Never ran as a CIU. The first CIU as I have said was a two axle caravan towed by NCC777R. Carried only a portable shower and CPS for decontaminating. I have a photograph of 148 DDM given to me taken in 1978 looking rather delapidated.

Added by Andy Middleton on 06 December 2009.
Where did the Range Rovers from Deeside & Rhyl go when taken out of service circa 1989? My Dad, Paul was one of the Instructors for the Hi Speed Driving of these & on Towing the CIU & CU when an LFm in Training School with the "Famous Four" Gareth, Ritchie, Wally & Jack!

Added by Simon Cunningham on 06 January 2010.
One went to Rhone-Polic in Dagenham and one went to Westlands Helicopters. NCC777R is now in pieces on someones front drive.

Added by Andrew Middleton on 07 January 2010.
Thanks!

Added by Simon Cunningham on 22 January 2010.
I don't know if anyone can help me, I remember as a kid we went to Barmouth on holiday and the place we stayed was across the road from the fire station (I believe it's now a camping shop?).
We were there in 1968 and I remember trying to peep through the chipped paint on the windows to see inside. I think drill night may have been a Monday but not sure.
Has anyone got any pictures of the station in those days and the line up at all please?

Added by Glenn Ramsden on 20 March 2011.
I passed through one drill night in probably 1969, early Aug. At that time there was a flat fronted HCB Bedford PL and a normal control Bedford pump J2?

Added by Neal Glover on 20 March 2011.
I can't remember exactly what the appliances were but would love to trace some pics if anyone has any?

I can also remember Bradbury's Garage where either the local ambulance was kept or it was in for repairs while we were on holiday. I think Mr Bradbury was a retained fireman (as they were in those days) and was also involved with the lifeboat and maybe ambulance too?

Added by Glenn Ramsden on 21 March 2011.
there is a former Barmouth appliance at picture #21031

Added by Peter Williams on 21 March 2011.
In 1968 Barmouth had on the run CFF 921C a flat-fronted Bedford/HCB-Angus WrL and DFF 112 a Bedford/HCB WrT.
J. Bradbury was a L/Fm at Barmouth at this time.
The Ambulance you saw at Bradbury's Garage may very well have been stationed there. The Bedford AFS EP allocated to Barmouth was certainly kept at their garage but the AFS had probably been disbanded by the time you visited on holiday.


Added by Dusty on 21 March 2011.
Brilliant information thanks for your trouble, are there any pictures of the station how it was do you know?

Added by Glenn Ramsden on 22 March 2011.
I do have slides of the station and the WT but not the WrL, too much like the Lancs ones at the time. No way however of getting them on site.

Added by Neal Glover on 22 March 2011.
Okay, not to worry, if you hear of any around the late sixties, early seventies I would be interested, don't mind giving someone a drink for a couple of good pictures, cheers

Added by Glenn Ramsden on 23 March 2011.
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