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Paris Fire Brigade Ladder
4x4 Ladder, unique models in Paris
Where used for small streets and could pass under the traditional Paris house horse-doors.
The 4 wheels move and the engine can turn in circles or move like a crab. The ladder doesn't rotate.
I hope you'll understand what I mean
4x4 Ladder, unique models in Paris
Where used for small streets and could pass under the traditional Paris house horse-doors.
The 4 wheels move and the engine can turn in circles or move like a crab. The ladder doesn't rotate.
I hope you'll understand what I mean
Jacques,I hope you don't mind me adding a little more information to this somewhat very unusual turntable ladder of the(Paris Fire Brigade) Sapeurs Pompiers De Paris.
The Riffaud semi-automatic turntable ladder on the Salev chassis was available in 18,21 or 24 metres with some models of 24-metre ladder having a rescue cage,the ladder moving from 0% to 75% in 40 seconds,while it takes 60 seconds to turn 360%.
This interesting 24-metre Riffaud ladder on the Salev chassis was used for cross-country purposes or in spaces inaccessible to larger turntables.
The Paris Fire Brigade operated ten of these very versatile machines which could be operated by just one man,and were capable of 35 kilometres an hour and were powered by a Perkins diesel engine.The overall weight of this most unusual Riffuad/Salev 24m turntable ladder was just 7.25 tons.
Added by Pete Matten on 02 September 2009.
The Riffaud semi-automatic turntable ladder on the Salev chassis was available in 18,21 or 24 metres with some models of 24-metre ladder having a rescue cage,the ladder moving from 0% to 75% in 40 seconds,while it takes 60 seconds to turn 360%.
This interesting 24-metre Riffaud ladder on the Salev chassis was used for cross-country purposes or in spaces inaccessible to larger turntables.
The Paris Fire Brigade operated ten of these very versatile machines which could be operated by just one man,and were capable of 35 kilometres an hour and were powered by a Perkins diesel engine.The overall weight of this most unusual Riffuad/Salev 24m turntable ladder was just 7.25 tons.
Added by Pete Matten on 02 September 2009.
Hi Pete, Not at all and many thanks.
Just one point i don't think some were with a cage. Riffaud+cage during these years was a another story.(i will ask my Paris fire museum specialist)
Paris ordered mainly, Magirus and Metz ladders in the 60 and 70'. Trial TL30 were ordered with Saviem chassis and Riffaud ladders with cage. Didn't last very long, the electrical connections were a nightmare for the operator. Cages were removed and the ladders looked very odd. I shall check if i can find some pics.
To be continued...
cheers
JP
Added by Jacques PETER on 03 September 2009.
Just one point i don't think some were with a cage. Riffaud+cage during these years was a another story.(i will ask my Paris fire museum specialist)
Paris ordered mainly, Magirus and Metz ladders in the 60 and 70'. Trial TL30 were ordered with Saviem chassis and Riffaud ladders with cage. Didn't last very long, the electrical connections were a nightmare for the operator. Cages were removed and the ladders looked very odd. I shall check if i can find some pics.
To be continued...
cheers
JP
Added by Jacques PETER on 03 September 2009.
Hi Pete.
TTL Saviem Paris with removed cage/basket, i found it! and will be posted soon. Cheers -JP
Added by Jacques PETER on 03 September 2009.
TTL Saviem Paris with removed cage/basket, i found it! and will be posted soon. Cheers -JP
Added by Jacques PETER on 03 September 2009.
Hi Pete,
I just got the confirmation from my friend from the Paris museum. The model shown above never had a cage/basket. My story with the Saviem tentative is also confirmed. Nowadays they have 3 TTL with cage/basket. Mainly a question of budget. My point of view is, its rather sad a city like Paris with so many old building fire with rescue and they have only normal ladders. But again its the army.
Paris is now way behind with equipment compared with the other regions of France, 30 years ago it was the opposite.
Added by Jacques PETER on 05 September 2009.
I just got the confirmation from my friend from the Paris museum. The model shown above never had a cage/basket. My story with the Saviem tentative is also confirmed. Nowadays they have 3 TTL with cage/basket. Mainly a question of budget. My point of view is, its rather sad a city like Paris with so many old building fire with rescue and they have only normal ladders. But again its the army.
Paris is now way behind with equipment compared with the other regions of France, 30 years ago it was the opposite.
Added by Jacques PETER on 05 September 2009.
Paris museum is in Massena FS, 13th district.
You have to make a demand in advance as it is military installations. My friend used to be in charge before retiring. They are maintaining engines very well and always adding new ones.
Added by Jacques PETER on 05 September 2009.
You have to make a demand in advance as it is military installations. My friend used to be in charge before retiring. They are maintaining engines very well and always adding new ones.
Added by Jacques PETER on 05 September 2009.
Thanks for that Jacques....do they have a web site? must put that on my 'to do' list next time I am in Paris
Added by Barrie Green on 06 September 2009.
Added by Barrie Green on 06 September 2009.
Hi Barrie,
I checked the webpage, they don't mention the museum. Should you need more info you can contact me at : [email protected]
I can explain more.
Added by Jacques PETER on 07 September 2009.
I checked the webpage, they don't mention the museum. Should you need more info you can contact me at : [email protected]
I can explain more.
Added by Jacques PETER on 07 September 2009.
JP - Are these brilliant little ladders still in use? I lived in Paris for a while and still visit often, but I have never seen one of these!
Added by Rob Johnson on 03 April 2013.
Added by Rob Johnson on 03 April 2013.
This rig seems to carrry a rather small crew for a time period when most pumpers in Germany and France responded with 6-8 men on board. I even know that one model produced by Mercedes-Benz during WWII, the KS 25, had space for 11 crew members! How they could afford that, I have no idea.
Added by Tiger on 05 April 2013.
Added by Tiger on 05 April 2013.
Hard to see how any more crew members could be fitted onto such a small rig!
Added by Rob Johnson on 13 October 2022.
Added by Rob Johnson on 13 October 2022.
The EATT was manned by 3, there are 2 seats located at the back.
Added by PETER JACQUES on 19 October 2022.
Added by PETER JACQUES on 19 October 2022.
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Now, you have given me the answer 36 years later !
Thank you; and keep those photos coming.
Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B
Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 02 September 2009.