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Dennis Fire Appliance - Echo Alpha
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No: 18727   Contributor: Gary Drury   Year: 2009   Manufacturer: Dennis   Country: United Kingdom
Dennis Fire Appliance - Echo Alpha

L881 CPC - Seen at the lowestoft carnival, I happen to believe this is a fire limo.
But if im wrong please correct me.
Picture added on 17 August 2009 at 15:40
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Gary this is certainly not a limo! This is in use with East Anglian Fire Rescue a private/works brigade! Hope this helps!

Added by Graham on 17 August 2009.
You can tell it's not a fire limo. Fire limos are not allowed to keep their blue lights.

Added by YelpBullhorn on 19 August 2009.
Excuse me im sorry BUT... Some Fire Limo's do keep there blue lights on!! you can have them on there but they MUST and MUST be disconnected however!! There has or is being a new law which is stating no longer u can have blue lights on! But my point is that some limo's do have them on!!

Added by Gary Drury on 20 September 2009.
Depends on the 'Plod' in the area I think Gary

Added by Barrie Green on 21 September 2009.
Indeed that's right Barrie

Added by Gary Drury on 22 September 2009.
Good point i own and run a fire limo and agree that blue lights should not be allowed on fire limos, but have no problem with fspg members showing blue lights.

Added by Michael Jones on 25 September 2009.
As I was reading this selection of comments, some thoughts occured to me,namely are these things fully operational? or operational to some degree?
And also does the same apply to preserved appliances? if these and the true preserved appliances were fully kitted out, would they be expected to help out if they came across a fire before the Fire Brigade did? I would have thought that preserved or not, a Fire appliance is still a Fire Appliance in the eyes of the public isn't it?

Added by Chris Hall Teesside. UK. on 26 September 2009.
Well Limo appliances often have pumps and water tanks removed to reduce weight to remove the HGV licence requirement. I drive preserved machines all the time and the one thing which worries me is coming across an incident and not having the equipment or manpower to help out....as you say Chris ...in the eyes of the public a fire engine is a fire engine and they do not expect one to drive past an incident.

Added by Barrie Green on 26 September 2009.
No fire limo have no part in fspg or anything related to the fire brigade.
fire limo are taxi and make money from hire and reward.
once a fire limo then no blue lights or sirens.
After all you could not have a white car with blue light on top and say oh its a taxi.

Added by Michael Jones on 27 September 2009.
I remember a brigade habit in my retained days was a driving school appliance always carried a full tank, ladder and a few lengths of delivery, "just in case". With the preserved machines isn't it the case that if its still equipped ie pump etc its exempt tax etc? Barrie, one of the beauties of preservation is a machine that works in every way.

Added by John Stott on 27 September 2009.
I agree John...but its not practical to have up to date safety equipment like working certified BA sets on a preserved vehicle or Holmatro gear for that matter. Car fires, which is the most likely incident you will come across nowadays can be very dangerous to tackle due to all the toxic materials they now have plus airbags explosion risks....not at all like my time operational when all you had to do is pop the bonnet and blast a hose reel jet into the engine compartment. As for RTCs...the only equipment I have on the F7 apart from crowbars and a hacksaw is a 'Keach Tool' and for those who dont know..this is like a oversized old fashioned tin opener.

Added by Barrie Green on 27 September 2009.
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