Excuse me im sorry BUT... Some Fire Limo's do keep there blue lights on!! you can have them on there but they MUST and MUST be disconnected however!! There has or is being a new law which is stating no longer u can have blue lights on! But my point is that some limo's do have them on!!
Good point i own and run a fire limo and agree that blue lights should not be allowed on fire limos, but have no problem with fspg members showing blue lights.
Added by Michael Jones on 25 September 2009.
As I was reading this selection of comments, some thoughts occured to me,namely are these things fully operational? or operational to some degree? And also does the same apply to preserved appliances? if these and the true preserved appliances were fully kitted out, would they be expected to help out if they came across a fire before the Fire Brigade did? I would have thought that preserved or not, a Fire appliance is still a Fire Appliance in the eyes of the public isn't it?
Well Limo appliances often have pumps and water tanks removed to reduce weight to remove the HGV licence requirement. I drive preserved machines all the time and the one thing which worries me is coming across an incident and not having the equipment or manpower to help out....as you say Chris ...in the eyes of the public a fire engine is a fire engine and they do not expect one to drive past an incident.
No fire limo have no part in fspg or anything related to the fire brigade. fire limo are taxi and make money from hire and reward. once a fire limo then no blue lights or sirens. After all you could not have a white car with blue light on top and say oh its a taxi.
Added by Michael Jones on 27 September 2009.
I remember a brigade habit in my retained days was a driving school appliance always carried a full tank, ladder and a few lengths of delivery, "just in case". With the preserved machines isn't it the case that if its still equipped ie pump etc its exempt tax etc? Barrie, one of the beauties of preservation is a machine that works in every way.
I agree John...but its not practical to have up to date safety equipment like working certified BA sets on a preserved vehicle or Holmatro gear for that matter. Car fires, which is the most likely incident you will come across nowadays can be very dangerous to tackle due to all the toxic materials they now have plus airbags explosion risks....not at all like my time operational when all you had to do is pop the bonnet and blast a hose reel jet into the engine compartment. As for RTCs...the only equipment I have on the F7 apart from crowbars and a hacksaw is a 'Keach Tool' and for those who dont know..this is like a oversized old fashioned tin opener.
Added by Graham on 17 August 2009.