Fire Engines Photos

This looks like the one that Del Prado made a model of last year

Added by Bob on 22 March 2009.

Bob it is, along with W523OSW in picture 16244.

Added by Andy McVean on 22 March 2009.

your correct Bob though they did it in a weird 1/64th scale to fit in with the scale of American model fire apparatus. would have been better if it had been 1/76.

Added by Stevie Murray on 22 March 2009.

Is it still in service?

Added by Buzz on 22 March 2009.

Buzz, it is still in service, looking back at the only official fleetlist I have for Dumfries & Galloway (2005) is that it was on a 20 year cycle, which means it was meant to be replaced in 2008, but I would think it is still in a rather good condition, so it could last a few more yet.

Added by Andy McVean on 23 March 2009.

It's also in all probability one of the least used CUs in the UK !

Added by Ian Moore on 23 March 2009.

Brilliant, good value for money.

Added by Buzz on 23 March 2009.

This ICU is now owned by Fire Aide International and is signed up by them and taken to shows around the country, i have seen this twice at Arbroath this year. They also have a Green Goddess that goes also. Both appliances are now kept at Dumferline fire station.

Added by Grant Melville on 01 October 2011.

Grant, sorry to correct you but the charity is International Fire & Rescue Association ( IFRA ). We even had this at the recent exhibition in Glasgow at the SECC.

Added by Stevie Murray on 03 October 2011.

Oooops sorry stevie got mixed up but knew International whas in there somewhere.LoL. Saw the 2 vehicles at Dumferline on the 20th August on the last Scottish FBS visit of the year then it was some of the Edinburgh stations and Dalkeith.

Added by Grant Melville on 03 October 2011.

The red and white rotating beacon used to be very common on US fire trucks, but I always thought they were illegal in Britain. Presumably the light is intended to identify the vehicle as an incident control unit - but this must be one of very few such lights on UK appliances.

Added by Rob Johnson on 14 December 2013.

Rob they were common on control vans once. Our West Riding ones carried them. The idea being not for road use but static for identification. Although The Manual states only a command vehicle should display a blue light when stationary, in practice this rarely happens. This was one way of ensuring the correct location for command.
I have long advocated the fitting of amber hazard lights for stationary appliances, the use of blue on static vehicles being technically incorrect. Whilst many will argue that they afford a degree of protection for stationary vehicles, their use causes fire ground confusion.
Then common sense / bad discipline seems the norm.

Added by John Stott on 15 December 2013.

John - as it turns out, the Netherlands' authorities agree with you. They require all fire service units to display only amber warning loghts at emergency incident locations.

However, as far as I know, it is the only jurisdiction which insists on this. If you really want to be confused, come to Chicago. As both police and EMS automatically respond to all structure fires, you will see rotating, flashing and strobe lights in red, amber, blue, white and even green, with some individual vehicles displaying as many as twenty-five individual lights.

At a city center hi-rise incident, you will see a first response including four engines, two aerial ladders, a snorkel, a heavy rescue, two chiefs' cars, a safety offcer's car, a hi-rise support truck, one or two CFD ambulances and two to five police vehicles. All that is missing is the Christmas tree!

Added by Rob Johnson on 15 December 2013.

The first blue/red multiflash beacon which I saw was at the exhibition at Harrogate and was on the first of the Glasgow 'Scoochers' which was introduced at the show. As John suggested, they were supposed to show blue when moving and red when stationary, the explanation at the time was red was more visible to indicate an obstruction rather than the 'command' identification which was a later idea. In practice both colours were switched on all the time which eventually attracted complaints from the very keen traffic cops and they eventually went out of favour.....of course....a simple solution would have been to wire them via a two position switch so that only one light could be used at a time.....maybe that was too easy !

Added by Barrie Green on 15 December 2013.

Lancs had them on the 1st Ford Marksman until the broke. They were made by a firm in Blackpool or Preston. One was fitted to the Control Unit which lasted longer. It seems the build quality was poor, it could explain why they were all on together. Lancs Police had large red beacons on their early Ford Transit accident units, not unknown to be used in motion, more visible than the legal ones fitted.

Added by Neal Glover on 16 December 2013.

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