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1921 Dennis 'N' Type pump escape
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No: 1606   Contributor: Dr. B.A. Hutchinson   Year: 2006   Manufacturer: Dennis
1921 Dennis 'N' Type pump escape

FA1075 is a 1921 Dennis 'N' Type pump escape. It is fitted with a 60HP White and Poppe 4 cylinder engine coupled to a Dennis 4 speed gearbox via a two Power Take Off drives. The first PTO is for the main Gywnne 1000gpm pump. It is a 3 stage turbine pump with a twin piston exhauster for priming. The second PTO is for the hose reel pump which can be supplied from the internal 50 gallon tank. Although the engine is very powerful, the braking system is rather rudimentary. There are no brakes on the front wheels, and only cam operated brakes on the back wheels. No friction material is used, just cast iron against cast iron. These brakes are only operated by a lever located alongside the gear change lever to the right of the driver. There is an additional foot operated transmission brake which is for emergency use only.



Picture added on 18 November 2006
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Fa1075 is a 1921 Dennis 'N' type pump escape. This appliance was delivered to the bass brewery at burton on trent and remained with them until the late 1960s.

Have a look at: www.clavis.co.uk/dennis/p5.htm

Added by Marcel G. on 18 November 2006.
I polished this engine at Barry's farm, brass work, cleaned the paint work and spent hours underneath cleaning the gearbox of oil after a winters break.
Thanks for the happy memories, mark

Added by Mark Gibson on 19 September 2007.
Wow!

Added by Bill Jones on 09 November 2007.
And the Bass, that it protected, is very good, too.
Speaking of the brakes, those solid rubber tyres, on cobblestones must have made an interesting ride, especially for the crew perched up on the sides on those hard benches.
Great photo, and details.
Regards,

Added by Pat_R-B on 20 April 2008.
Pat, with the gearbox in the middle of the chassis the weight is concentrated towards the rear end, with the heavy pump behind the rear axle along with the wheeled escape ladder. When the roads are wet the rear wheels are easy to break grip and you begin to slide. It is frightening.

On one of my other 'N' Types I have had some grooved solid tyres made. I haven't had chance to try them out yet so I don't know whether there is a significant improvement.

You are absolutely right about the seating position for the crew. You do seem as if you are perched up very high and as you jolt along poor roads you can quite imagine how you could be thrown off. If you look at picture No. 4200 you can see how the design had changed with the body so much lower and the crew now putting their feet on the lower locker box rather than the intermediate step above the suction hose.

Incidentally I do enjoy your comments, as being American ( I know you cannot help it...) you see things from a different perspective.

Best wishes

Added by Barry on 20 April 2008.
Ah, Barry, I appreciate the gentle ribbing.

I straddle several national and environmental boundaries, so that I can't possibly get "wound up" about anything !

Yes, about the crew perched up there - Frank Cerutti has posted at Picture 7784 and Picture 7785 - an Aussie 60hp N Type manned by its crew, and the other of it sadly rusting away in a field. No doubt, you have sighted the pics already.

This last - we all agree upon, on this Web-Site, to not let the wonderful "Old Iron" get neglected; and to preserve its history.

And, then to have some fun at it - taking humorous shots at each other....

All the more, to enjoy the machines that you and your fellow preservationists have saved; and shared on the Web.

Keep the faith,
Kindest regards,


Added by Pat_R-B on 24 May 2008.
Yatming (Hong Kong) diecast model makers have just released a model of this 1921 Dennis 'N' Series in 1:43 scale (6 inches approx )in there Signature Series.
I managed to get mine in Bognor Regis on Friday and for value and detail its well worth adding to any model collection.Model No-43008.



Added by Pete Matten on 14 June 2008.
Pete, the photographer from Yatming came last year and worked on a number of my machines and also the museum vehicles of the Tyne and Wear Fire Brigade, besides diverting to Germany for some appliances there. In the first wave of these new releases, besides FA1075, there is my Light Four, a Leyland Cub and a Magirus.

I haven't seen any 'in the flesh' yet, but the pictures of them on ebay look good. If you have chance could you send me a picture of your model.

Thanks,

Barry

Added by Barry on 14 June 2008.
Barry, I've taken a couple of pictures of the model today so will forward them onto you in due course direct through your E.Mail address.I think you'll be impressed with the finished product.Only fault I can find in this model is they for some reason haven't included the reg plate?.Pete.

Added by Pete Matten on 15 June 2008.
Pete & Barry:
I had a look at their 'Site by Googling "Yatming Signature 43008" and the page came up, showing 12 models.
In addition to Barry's above; the Dennis Light 4 with the Escape is Model 43011,
Mercedes Benz Type L4500S with TL[the Magirus?] is 43012, no Leyland Cub; but 2 Aherns-Fox - the midships pumper in white, and the ultimate front-mount 1925
A-H N-S-4 piston pump as 43004.
I couldn't find a price-list; and, what is your opinion on the quality of these models?
Regards,
Pat_R-B

Added by Pat_R-B on 15 June 2008.
The model of this 1921 Dennis by Yatming (Hong Kong) is very well detailed and a popular size, 1:43 scale.The majority of the vehicle is plastic with some metal to the main body.The lettering and crest are shown in perfect detail.
Only fault I could find is it doesn't have a registration plate:FA-1075.
I paid £12.99 for this model and its worth that beleave me.

Added by Pete Matten on 15 June 2008.
I saw this Yatming model in ModelZone on Friday, it really does look excellent, and at £12.99 they're virtually giving it away !

Added by Ian Moore on 15 June 2008.
Thanks for the E.mail Barry in reference to the Yatming model.
I hope they follow through and keep to their promise.

Added by Pete Matten on 16 June 2008.
I am trying to find the date of manufacture of a Dennis N Type Licence Plate number YM9050.

Added by James Hatch on 28 July 2009.
I recall 'climbing aboard' this in the Bass Breweries Fire Station off Guild Street about 1960 when the Chief Fire Officer was a Mr.Shaw who lived just across the road in Guild Street.

Added by Malcolm Howie on 14 May 2014.
There was a lot of much-needed progress in the 1920s in areas like tyres and braking systems, but some brigades still ordered their new appliances with solid rubber tyres well into the 1930s. The reason? Cast-off horseshoe nails were a serious puncture hazard if you ran on pneumatics in many towns.

Added by Rob Johnson on 20 March 2017.
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