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this machine is in the museum at Laurieston place. perhaps they could help?

Added by Stevie Murray on 03 February 2009.

This is a rather unique photograph, in that it shows the machine with an incorrect registration ! It was actually FS 2874.

Added by Ian Moore on 03 February 2009.

Wonderful picture Doc. Looks as if it was new when the picture was taken.
Andrew.

Added by Andrew Wright on 03 February 2009.

What a fantastic looking vehicle.

Added by Paul Warnock on 04 February 2009.

Possibly the reason behind the central delivery sizes are because before World War 2 the fire hoses branches are not standardised and the branches follow the county or area hydrant. So in this case possibly various types of branches are used by a brigade.

Added by Bomba Boy on 04 February 2009.

This is a close relative to the 1931 enclosed Dennis pump supplied to Darlington. They were supposedly the first enclosed appliances in the UK, and possibly the World. The rear had a longitudinal bench for the crew and open racks for rolled hose and equipment. There was no tank or hose reel, so 1.0 or 1.5" hose was carried for use on small fires - hence the smaller outlets (on one side only). A picture of the Darlington pump appears in Blackstone's History. As I remember, it had a bus type rear platform at the rear on the left side for crew access, probably copied from Dennis busses of the same vintage.

Added by Robert Johnson on 30 April 2009.

Barry,

My Leyland Cub FK1 ex Kirkaldy also has a larger '3rd delivery' - given that Kirkaldy had a docks - it was probable that the larger delivery was to feed a 'ship to shore connector' or, a larger capacity fire main - as Edinburgh also had a docks - albeit in the neighbouring brigade of Leith and also such buildings/landmarks as the castle that may also have had a 'dedicated fire main' which required a greater supply of water ?
To add to this theory the Trincomalee F8 featured on this site (Ceylon Naval Dockyard) was also delivered with a length of larger capacity hose for such a reason.

Added by Rick Loudon on 13 December 2011.

The central large diameter delivery has a screw coupling which marries the pump to an inline foam compound proportionator. (the same outlet features in the Halley 1910 pump, part of the Museum of Fire collection at Lauriston Place. This featured appliance is NOT in the Museum of Fire at Lauriston Place.Note the chrome EFB + torch symbol on the radiator, now used as the Museum of Fire logo and was modified to be the logo for the IFE whose first registered office was Lauriston Place

Added by Colin Foster on 14 September 2012.

Thank you Colin - you've answered a question that had me guessing about its use - a 'dedicated foam line' is an obvious reason for the larger delivery - and easily identified by the screw coupling !

Added by Rick Loudon on 15 September 2012.

If this machine is not in the Edinburgh Museum, do I take it that it does not exist? Lovely machine.

Added by Barrie Green on 15 September 2012.

I've got no knowledge of the existence of this machine Barrie. The only 'limousine' type pump within the Museum is a 1936 Dennis.

Added by Colin Foster on 16 September 2012.

Thanks Colin.....looking forward to visiting Lauriston Place next month for the Fire Heritage Network AGM......last time I was there fire engines were turning out must have been 1960s

Added by Barrie Green on 16 September 2012.

There is a small-scale model of this type of engine marked "Edinburgh Fire Brigade" on disply without caption in the Los Angeles Fire Museum, Old Station 27 near Hollywood Boulevard - with maroon rather than red paint, number plate beginning ASG and 3 numbers, more likely to be the 1936 machine. The SS registration is unusual as being East Lothian (previously Haddington-shire)rather than the Edinburgh two-letter combinstions SC, SF, SG, FS and WS (which had been the Leith registration). If anyone has a picture ofv that machine that would be of great interest.

Added by Bill Hume on 03 July 2018.

This is the one in the museum in Edinburgh I understand




Added by Petros on 04 April 2023.

The earliest dates for enclosed fire appliances in the UK were this Edinburgh Dennis unit and the quite different one for Darlington, which had a rear mounted pump . Both were delivered in 1931. So far my researches have suggested that enclosed pumpers appeared in the US in 1935 (Mack), in France in 1921 (Drouert), in the Netherlands in 1923 (Ford) and in Portugal and Germany (Magirus) in 1924. There may of course be other earlier examples, though, that I have not been able to track down… The trend to enclose turntable ladder cabs was much slower, because fire brigades wanted to give their drivers a clear view of the structure they were attending to facilitate ladder placement.

Added by Rob Johnson on 04 April 2023.

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