Fire Engines Photos

hi harvey what was happing here looks like a tipper lorry fell over on full tip but on a hill ( only guessing as i use to work for a tipper firm ) and we were always told never tip on a hill unless to go with the angle of the road( surface) nice pic though

Added by Calvin Fox on 02 December 2008.

The Scania is a Hi-Ab equipped tipper while the car is a Nissan March. Anyway nice picture of the WRL at work.

Added by Bomba Boy on 02 December 2008.

you have it right Calvin the silly bloke was in a rush and well this is wont happened, and bomba boy sorry its not a WRL its an Extended Rescue Pump.

Added by Harvey Dan on 02 December 2008.

micra not march

Added by Rich(larbert fire cadets central scotland) on 17 January 2009.

Rich outside the UK/Euro zone the Nissan Micra is called the March.

Added by Stuart on 18 January 2009.

An "ERP" - Extended Rescue Pump - does what exactly ? say, compared with a Water Tender Ladder; or a garden-variety Rescue Pump....

Great on-scene photo of an "Uh-Ooh - Ooops".

Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B

Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 19 January 2009.

Pat its a Brit habit we have, lots of people sit in offices thinking up these things and are paid for it. Meanwhile HPs and TLs are lost to Carps and ARPs, which translates as manning cutbacks. Truck makers love these people as they then sell lorries posing as fire engines by calling them different things! A nice cosy set up!

Added by John Stott on 19 January 2009.

And also brigades trying to outdo each other by coming up with different names and trying to look more impressive ...

Added by John Johnstone on 21 January 2009.

Well Mr Johnson! You are getting as cynical as me! lol!

Added by John Stott on 22 January 2009.

Hi John! i blame my age and the fact that every brigade calls it's rescue pump by a different name, must be like the guy nextdoor with a car that's not quite as good as mine, one up manship me thinks ....

Added by John Johnstone on 24 January 2009.

I know John! About time to go back down the NFS route with the Home Office and Moreton dictating design and spec of machines, and a move back to quality! Too many empires and cosy set ups at stake for that to happen methinks?

Added by John Stott on 25 January 2009.

Too many in the brigade that know nothing and get paid far too much, but i can't see the reason the brigades can't get together and design a Standard rescue pump, and possibly a chassis designed for for a special appliance use ie alp / tl etc.

The source of spares would not be a problem and it could use any engine that complies to the current euro standards, after all, it's only Addblue ( pig urine ) sprayed into the exhaust that makes them euro 5 right now!



Added by John Johnstone on 25 January 2009.

John, as ever you hit the nail on the head. The right chassis are there, but the excuses I hear are always that the lorry is cheaper. This then allows more fancy kit, which in itself costs a fortune and of course, that good old chestnut of "elf and safety" which dictates fire service thinking down to the colour of station loo paper. What a world!

Added by John Stott on 25 January 2009.

It is quite tedious when a Brigade concentrates on presenting itself as a 'business' or a 'service' rather than a Brigade. However thats the world we live in. There is of course always the other side of the coin. Up here in North East England, my local Brigade has become very good in raising it's profile and has quite a good publicity campaign which raises awareness of various Fire issues, actively promoting Fire safety. Through this policy the Brigade has actually reduced accidental Fires. Something which can only be good. It is unfortunate that Brigades and other institutions have to be 'Financially aware' but that's the world we live in, until we get a strong Government which actually cares about running the country, things will stay the way they are.
As far as I'm aware a Rescue Pump is an ordinary appliance with some extra equipment. If I was cynical, I would say 'a cheap Rescue Tender'.
We once had in the UK, a cohesive fire fighting force with standardised quality equipment, but consecutive short sighted and weak government policies disbanded it in 1968.

Added by Chris Hall Teesside UK. on 25 February 2009.

Hi folks,
Here in our brigade ( or FRS ) the rescue pump is a water ladder pump carrying RTC equipment hence rescue pump. The phrase was coined when road rescue units and emergency tenders were being phased out.

Added by Stevie Murray on 26 February 2009.

Intrestingly Central still only have their appliances designated as a WrL (somewhere I have seen R579VLS listed as WrL/R), but for many years now the brigade has operated with RTA/C equipment on WrL's as standard only the WrT's don't normally I think whilst still keeping a RT on the run for heavy incidents.

Added by Jake Reever on 26 February 2009.

hi guys here in west sussex all front line trucks are all wrl every truck in service is the same all over the county but we carry on 2 pump station clan lucas on 1st pumps and holmatro on 2nd pumps so either trucks can be called to rtc"s and then we have 3x heavy rescue tenders ( hrt"s) which carry a more then the standard wrls no fancy names in this service they all do the same job in my eyes

Added by Calvin Fox on 26 February 2009.

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