Hi David, thanks for this and your other photos just posted. It may only have been the late 80s but it already looks a very long time ago! I think it's nice to see relatively modern appliances like this without the yards of reflective tape that has become the norm.
Added by Chris Wood on 17 October 2008.
this was the replacement for my machine it was described as slow and unstable
Added by Jason Lester on 01 January 2009.
It's just dawned on me, but I think this HP (or it's sister?) may have gone out to Ireland and may still be in use/was up until recently. I'll have to look back and find where I saw it (Fire Brigade Society´s excellent Fire Cover magazine rings a bell). It´s not very inspiring to look at, especially when compared to that Dennis TL of Jason´s (which really looks like it means business), although I must admit that I always found the Dayglo colour scheme on the Surrey machines intriguing particularly on their Shelvokes (love to see some pictures of those please) & the early Dennis RS´s they had.
Although I've sent in some pictures earlier to the site of some of the very old appliances once used by the Surrey Fire Brigade(Surrey F+RS), I will now send in some from a later period-the 1970's and the 1980's.Shelvoke WrT, Dennis RS WrL, and a Ford/Simon 85'Hydraulic Platform that was located at Guildford.
Added by Pete Matten on 05 January 2009.
The D1617 used for Simon Snorkel applications had exactly the same Perkins V8 as the custom ERF and Dennis Delta chassis, both of which were specially engineered for the 85 foot Snorkel.
They all weighed almost exactly 16 toones, so, unless the wrong axle ratio was selected by the customer, it should not have been any slower than either of them.
As regards stability, it was not a special low profile design, like both of them, but a standard 16 tonne truck. So you got what you paid for! Spend less and drive more carefully is a trade-off many fire brigade authorities were easily persuaded to accept, with the result that quite a few Snorkels ended up on D1617 chassis.
Added by Chris Wood on 17 October 2008.