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1938 Seagrave Fire Truck
Fire Engine Photos
No: 6992   Contributor: Neil McCarten   Year: 1994   Manufacturer: Seagrave   Country: United States of America
1938 Seagrave Fire Truck

Detroit, MI, Engine 31
1938 Seagrave
1000 /
(Sweetheart Grille)
Photo taken 7/16/1994
Picture added on 22 March 2008
add commentComments:
No ones asking the questions. Neil, please tell us about the Sweetheart Grille. I trust it's nothing naughty, , , ,

Added by Pavel - Western Australia on 28 March 2008.
Not everyone had to ride outside in those cold Michigan winters.
Beautiful sedan-body engine.
I presume it is just a pump-and-hose combination, 1000 gpm ?
Was it also used for transferring crews?
Good detail on the Roto Rays Warning Light [the 3 red lamps] patented 1930 by the Buckeye Iron & Brass Works.
Pavel - alas, I believe "Sweetheart Grille" just refers to the top shape
of the radiator grille - resembles the St Valentine's Day heart.

Added by Pat_R-B on 05 April 2008.
I think this is one of the most magnificent apparatus that Seagrave ever built - - a real gem. (I collect model fire apparatus and wish they made this one) I'm a retired volunteer fire chief and taught fire school for State of Ohio for many years. Model and photos are now my hobby

Added by Dan E. Boyd on 01 January 2009.
Dan-model collecting.I've collected models for some 40 years and I'm shocked
that this actual appliance in model form is not available to you in the USA.
Gorgi Collectables have produced a set called the'Seagrave Anniversary Pumper'
which is simular to this photo and consists of an all enclosed pumper, another
a half-cab pumper showing hosereels and also a Seagrave Tillered Ladder.Gorgi
have produced them in many liveries and designs since the original releases.
Why not checkout the Gorgi site for more information.....Pete(UK).

Added by Pete Matten on 02 January 2009.
Dear Pete,
I visited your wonderful country several years ago - - really like England and saw some of your equipment. Thanks for the tip about Gorgi - - will definitely check into it. Dan

Added by Dan E. Boyd on 02 January 2009.
My model collection covers the time period of 1900 through the mid-1950's. I want the 1938/39 Safety sedan Seagrave. I found the 1950's and will order it tomorrow; still want the 1938/39 model. Dan

Added by Dan E. Boyd on 04 January 2009.
Dan, good luck with your model collection, I hope the Gorgi site was of
some interest to you and you can find at least something you like, Pete.

Added by Pete Matten on 04 January 2009.
The Detroit Firemen's Benevolent Assc. is midway through the memorial rig project. (1936-37) Detroit Seagrave Safety Sedan. It is to be used as a funeral rig for Michigan line of duty deaths.
As I write this it is awaiting transport to the paint facility. Anyway we are planning on authorizing a scale model when it is completed.

Added by Arnie Nowicki on 16 March 2009.
I found and purchased the Corgi Seagrave safety sedan "squad" modeled after the Tenafly, N.J
rig (it is white in color) but still cannot
locate the #US50504 red Detroit pumper

Added by Dan E. Boyd on 21 July 2009.

besite the Detroit Seagrave Safety sedan, there is a set with hold a Detroit Seagrave Safety Sedan pumper and a Seagrave Safety Sedan Tillered ladder. I have them in my collection of models.

Added by Louis van Telgen on 22 July 2009.
Geez, Pete, what a Fount of Knowledge you are. Much appreciated.

Does anyone have a photo of the Seagrave Safety Sedan Tillered Aerial(TTL)Ladder, to put in here for us, to enjoy ? That will have to be some bee-yoo-tiful rig.

Louis, or, Pete; even a macro photo of your Corgi model would be great.

I hunted through this 'Site; only Seagrave Tiller Ladder is Picture # 190 - Honolulu, Hawaii - a later truck than the Safety Sedan, which also carries a Surf-Board - worth seeing, in its own right.

Regards, from Canada,

Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 23 July 2009.
IK purchased the 70th Anniversay model of the Seagrave tillered ladder- - very nice model but still can't locate (even of Ebay) my Seagrave Safey Sedan pumper - - this is frustrating!

Added by Dan E. Boyd on 25 July 2009.
Pat, Dan,

I put a snapshop of the Seagrave sedans in the makings of the Detriot fire department on the transport-model board, it is nummer 385.

Added by Louis van Telgen on 04 October 2009.
Hello everyone:
Since my last posting I have purchased the tillered aerial and the canopy Seagrave but still can't find the safety-sedan pumper; surely someone has one for sale one would think eventhough it is discontinued by Corgi.

Added by Dan E. Boyd on 05 October 2009.
I have two sets still in box of the Detroit Commemorative Set-Seagrave,

Added by Raven Payne on 22 October 2009.
Raven Payne - - -
I have the tillered aerial and the canopy Seagraves and the whitge colored squad - - all I need is Detroit Safety Sedan/Corgi #US50504.
Dan E. Boyd

Added by Dan E. Boyd on 22 October 2009.
Several other people are helping me - - they are
searching their sites etc. - -maybe one will show
up soon.

Added by Dan E. Boyd on 01 February 2010.
I'd be curious to see more photos detailing the interior of this pump sedan. How was it laid out, how much hose did it have, and what equipment did it carry? Past that nice looking vehilce.

Added by David L on 02 February 2010.
To David L:
It is my understanding that it carried the standard 24" ladder set, the two hard tubes, and
1200 feet of 2 1/2" and a 100 booster tank. The hydrant sleeve was preconnected to the front big-way intake and flaked back over the curb-pside fender in a braket - - it is beautiful.

Added by Dan E. Boyd on 02 February 2010.
we are looking to have a die cast model created of the newly built 1937 seagrave safety sedan. stay tuned!

Added by Arn Nowicki on 02 February 2010.
War Department stopped Seagrave from making the safety sedan when WWII started - - used too much metal. These are really great and they'll sell like gold hotcakes.

Added by Dan E. Boyd on 03 February 2010.
Thanks Dan.

Added by David L on 03 February 2010.
Finally - - August 2011 - - call off the hounds, I have the fox - -it was discovered on eBay and I bought it and it's on its way to me. thanks to all that helped me find it. Dan E. Boyd

Added by Dan E. Boyd on 16 August 2011.
I received the model and it is as great as I thought it would be - - one of my favorites now.

Added by Dan E. Boyd on 17 August 2011.
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