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Zionsville Ladder 93
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No: 40518   Contributor: Andy Fish   Year: 2017   Country: United States of America
Zionsville Ladder 93

Zionsville (Indiana) operate this 2016 E One 137 foot rearmount ladder with a 2000 gpm pump and 500 gallon water tank.
Interestingly this ladder was purchased not because the dept had need for height requirement of the ladder but more it's horizontal reach. The dept area includes numerous large residential properties that are set back off the road and the longer ladder length was required in order to reach the roof lines of these.
Photo taken April 27th 2017
Picture added on 13 July 2017 at 10:18
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Andy - A rare bird indeed!

Very few US departments operate units this size, partly because of cost but also because they can be very tricky to operate in residential streets.

We had a 125 foot Firebird in Manhasset, which has its share of mansions too, but it was only sent to these incidents when a regular 100 foot aerial was not readily available, and it did need to back up to negotiate some of the turns! Not a very fast response...

When it was replaced, the MLFD bought a 75 foot quint. It was much shorter of course, but it was small enough that it could actually get up close to these large homes because it could fit into most of the driveways.

High Wycombe, in England, operated a 79 foot MAN ladder for several years for the same reason, and many European operate aerials between 59 and 82 feet, as well as 100 footers. With these smaller rigs you can more easily get in close, so you don't need to stretch out horizontally.

Horses for courses, as always, though. I hope Zionsville like their EOne. it is certainly an unusual choice...

Added by Rob Johnson on 13 July 2017.
Rob, having been an aerial operator for 29 of my 31 year career I feel a little "qualified" on this subject and any aerial is only as good as the operator. One thing that I see often is a rear mount that has been driven into it's operating location head on rather than reversed in. Whilst I accept that on occasions there is no other option this is extremely bad practice as you basically lose the entire chassis length of operating range. Of course in the USA there is the option of mid mounts and rear mounts and each has it's pros and cons. The UK has mid-mounts in the form of ARP's/CARP's but that's a while different subject.

What few people realise is that to gain the full benefit of a 30m ladder or platform the appliance can be no more than 3 metres away from the base of the building it's operating at, and the occasions that it's possible to get that close are extremely rare.

Added by Andy Fish on 13 July 2017.
Rob, an additional note. As I am sure that you are aware rear steer axles are common on commercial chassis here in Europe and have made their way in to the fire service too. My last station had a Mercedes Benz Econic mounted Bronto ALP with this feature and it would go anywhere our pump would. In effect a rigid chassis TDA !!! The bigger problem with using aerials on a domestic driveway is the jacking. If you're operating over the rear or cab it's fine, short jack, but if you're operating over the sides then full jacking is required and few drives are that wide.

Added by Andy Fish on 13 July 2017.
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