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No: 40480   Contributor: Alan Ramsay   Year: 2017   Country: United Kingdom
heathrow airports height appliance

Hi, i understand that at 42m this is the highest ALP in the uk, someone suggested it was 8x8 drive but it definitely isn't that , most likely 8x2 rear steer, looks a very expensive but great bit of kit.
Picture added on 16 May 2017 at 14:31
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According to the comments on the Surrey Metz Scania, it is also 42 metres making Heathrow and Surrey ALPs joint tallest in UK at this time.

Added by on 17 May 2017.
Their record will both be smashed by the new ALP due from Angloco for hertfordshire frs from what I have heard

Added by Drew on 17 May 2017.
Hertfordshire is of course world famous for its skyscrapers.

I live in Chicago, which has quite a few. CFD once ran a pair of 135 foot (41.2 meter) Japanese Morita aerial ladders and also had a couple of earlier Magirus 146 footers. (44.5 meters).

But now they run nothing over 100 feet (30 meters). Nor does any other US city, including FDNY, with a few exceptions, and there are a few odd sizes, such as 104, 107 or 110.

My local department on Long Island had a 125 foot Firebird, which was a pig, and too unwieldy to be deployed in most situations. But the only city to operate a fleet of these was Sacramento, and they too were not replaced by extra long reach units.

Marseille had a 38 meter Firebird too, primarily to protect the huge oil tank farm in the port, but it too was barely used and was replaced by a standard 30 meter ladder.

Giant towers and platforms are mostly found in third world countries, where high rise structures often seem to get built with inadequate built-in fire protection and means of egress because of weak building and fire codes.

In countries with strong and properly enforced high rise building and fire codes, aerials over 30 meters are mostly unecsessary, except for specific industrial risks. Cities like Amsterdam and Paris, with older but less tall structures, actually run a lot of 24 and 27 meter units.

In fact, the only super-sized aerials I have ever come across in Germany are actually operated by industrial fire services - although they do very occasionally turn out to reinforce the municipal brigades, especially when an alarm calls for additional aerials. German fire service also sometimes hook a hose line on the top of one of their large crane trucks, but these are not particularly high reach and an act of desparation more than a universal firefighting technique!

Added by Rob Johnson on 18 May 2017.
A correction. The BMPM Firebird was a 150 footer - 45.8 meters! It was supplied on an American FWD 6X6 military chassis, probably because there wasn't a suitable French one which could be used.

Added by Rob Johnson on 18 May 2017.
Drew, Angloco is dealer for Bronto Skylift and they have a platform that is more than 100m (300 ft). With its 70tons of weight, 15 minutes to set it up and 3m basket movement its practical use is limited.
But it's not unlikely they will have something in between 42 and 100m as well.

Added by Martin Siegel on 20 May 2017.
I recall seeing one at the Harrogate Show around 1969-70 named the Skyscraper, it went quite a bit higher than a Metz ladder that was there as well, wish I had taken a picture.

Added by Roger Mason on 22 May 2017.
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