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Hong Kong appliance at night
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No: 38334   Contributor: David Sapsford   Year: 2015   Country: Hong Kong
Hong Kong appliance at night

Appliance from (I think) North Point station parked up on the street.
I find these vehicles interesting as this concept is quite unpopular and very controversial back in the UK yet appears at almost every main station in Hong Kong. Perhaps the need for height capable vehicles in Hong Kong is so great that they consider the trade off worth it. I do notice that many stations also have 50m+ TLs.
Picture added on 24 February 2015 at 17:25
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Hi David. I think the booms on these Hong Kong pump hydraulic platforms are half-the-size, and about a third of the the weight of the 100-foot monsters they plonk on the back of a rescue pump back in the UK. So there is far less of a trade-off in Hong Kong than in the UK.

Back in the '70s, PHPs were relatively tolerated among some brigades because of the small boom. Compared to today's clumsy reinventions, those dual-purpose machines of the '70s were smaller and lighter, and therefore, more stable and more nimble. And they were, effectively, more of a water tender than they were an aerial. And they could cope quite comfortably doing the everyday stuff that water tenders normally did.

The CARP concept here has failed because CARPs are (rather foolishly) a combination of THREE already-big-enough appliances: a pump, a rescue tender and a full-height aerial, no less.

UK roads, road laws and the unyielding laws of physics tell you, before any sheet metal has been rolled, that it just won't work.

Added by Yelp Bullhorn on 26 February 2015.
Hi Yelp. Some good points I hadn't thought of, thanks for the input.
I notice that many brigades are going the way of combining traditional Pump/Water Tenders with Rescue tenders now. I think Hereford & Worcester have got Heavy Rescue Pumps (or some other curious designation!). Now we can mourn the demise of the Rescue Tender along with everything else! Times a-changin'...

Added by David Sapsford on 01 March 2015.
Spot on yelp, if the carps had smaller 50 ft booms they would be tolerate as they would be much more a jack of all trades as a b type is supposed to be , apart from jobs where it wasnt possible to get the booms to it mostly would be ideal for most domestic fires and safer to , chimney/roof fires would so much safer especially is winter conditions , could be a case for bringing them back along with light compact water tenders an almost perfect pair for most rural and city stations.

Added by Alan Ramsay on 03 March 2015.
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