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Spencer Fire dept NC E-751 Seagrave
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No: 33144   Contributor: TheFireman   Year: 2012   Manufacturer: Seagrave   Country: United States of America
Spencer Fire dept NC E-751 Seagrave

One of the few newer Seagrave apparatus I've seen in the Southeastern USA. 2010 Seagrave, IIRC, 1000gal/1500gpm.
Picture added on 11 October 2012 at 18:27
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Beautiful truck!

Added by Dermot Duffy on 11 October 2012.
That is a large Water tank for a pumper ....I am guessing Spencer is a rural area - great photo supprised to learn that NYFD are moving to KME from Seagrave for their pumpers and to Ferrara for rear mount ladders ...from what I've heard Seagrave build a dependable truck

Added by Gary bolton on 13 October 2012.
FDNY has exceptionally detailed specifications for their apparatus, which are quite different in many respects from other departments. (Just look at how the engines' hoses are stored and accessed, for example.)

Mayor Bloomberg is a self-made billionaire, and owes nobody any political, or financial, favors. Now, it has become a question of who can build the exact trucks FDNY needs at the lowest cost.

Bear in mind that most US fire engine builders offer just about any makes of engines, pumps and other equipment, so they are really assemblers rather than builders. When the customer has already defined every last specification detail, the only question left is how cheaply can it all be screwed together - hence KME and Ferrara.

Added by Rob Johnson on 14 October 2012.
It is not uncommon to find single axle pumpers in the US, fitted with a water tank up to 2000 gallons. And still have a large capacity pump, the required hose, BAs, and ladders. Above 2000 gallons, tandem axles is used.

Added by David L on 15 October 2012.
Rob accept the point that Fire Apparatus manufactures assemble the main components from propriety parts suppliers although it should be noted that CAT and Cummins make engines specifically for Fire Service use and Allison have severe service tranmissions that are used in Fire service applications . Whilst you can spec the hell out of details such as pump performance , Engine , Trans and so on - where the real nitty gritty starts is with all the small details that relate to micro specs dealing with the fixings for door hinges what type of trunking is used for the electrical loom down to the type and make of bushes and shims is where the longevity and robustness of apparatus is determined.... of course these secondary elements reveal themselves over time as bodies rattle and cab mounts creak .Realistically you would need a life time to detail out whether Torq screws are on the body and where and of what tensile strength - the clever thing that NYFD do is to insist on 5 year warranty cover so if you meet the specs but cut back on the underlying quality of the build you will be caught out. Of course the smaller FD does not have the luxury of a 5 year warranty trusting to judgement that the rest of the truck holds up over its life time .

Added by Gary bolton on 15 October 2012.
In the U.S. NFPA 1901 is the controlling standard for motorized fire apparatus. The term used for the type of vehicle in the photo is Pumper-Tanker. Some FDs do refer to their "pumper-tankers" simply as "engines"

Added by John Harris on 16 October 2012.
FDNY operates front line trucks for approximately ten years, depending on service hours, mileage and condition, as well as budgetary constraints. Given their workload, this is equivalent to 20 to 40 years of service in many smaller and especially volunteer departments.

Added by Rob Johnson on 17 October 2012.
All that aside, the Fireman must have a new camera 'cause this is one heck of a good photo! Well done brother, excellent pic!

Added by Pavel on 18 October 2012.
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