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1970 Hahn/Grove 100ft Tillered Aerial.
Fire Engine Photos
No: 29106   Contributor: Pete Matten   Year: 2011   Manufacturer: Hahn Motors Inc.   Country: United Kingdom
1970 Hahn/Grove 100ft Tillered Aerial.

This is not really the sort of thing one would expect to see in an'English Country Garden',but here she was out in the sun in all her glory.
This is a 1970 Hahn/Grove 100ft Tractor-Drawn Tillered Aerial Ladder that once served as Truck Company 26 of the Bethesda Fire Department in the state of Maryland,USA.
This photograph was taken on Saturday 13th August,2011 at the Redhill Steam Fair held at Robin Cooks Farm in Surrey,England.
This 1970 American Tiller is beleaved to be just one of the many American fire engines now privately owned in Surrey by an American enthusiest and is now registered in the UK with the registration-FYY440H.
My treat of the day was to ride on the big beast in and around the arena in front of the large crowds,something well worth remembering.
See also picture #29109
Picture added on 16 August 2011 at 15:47
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Pete now part of a growing army of American fire trucks that are finding there way to the UK , I believe that there is also an ex Richmond VA tiller based over here , a London film company has recently purchased two Pierce pumpers for a new feature length production and a late model Seagrave tiller has turned up in Holland .

I bet the registration process was interesting dealing with the DVLA can be frustrating on occasions even with UK based veteran trucks....must have raised a few eyebrows very interesting to see such a rig in the UK .

Added by Gary Bolton on 17 August 2011.
Hello Gary.The Richmond Virginia Oran/Pirsh Tiller you've mensioned I photographed many years ago and can be seen on this site at(picture 9580).Another couple of pictures worth looking at which I've done are(picture 9579)which shows an old ALF pumper, and(picture 13359)which shows a lovely old 1960 Mack C95 pumper.All these vehicles now have a home over here in the UK.
Talking about registrations, I wonder if anyone noticed the reg on this apparatus(FYY440H).The letter'H'comes from the same year as the vehicle came into service-1970.

Added by Pete Matten on 17 August 2011.
I used to live in Bethesda -- I was surprised to see our old tiller on this site with a British license plate! It's in really good condition.

Added by Mike Feldman on 18 August 2011.
Hello Mike, question is did you get a picture of her while in service at the station/firehouse?.
I'm sure there's afew American rig lovers like me would like to see this truck when it was actually on the departments roster afew year back.

Added by Pete Matten on 18 August 2011.
Pete - Unfortunately not, no photos...

Added by Mike Feldman on 19 August 2011.
RE: Bethesda Fire Department -- there are photos of all the current vehicles at bethesdafire (dot) org. Also some historical pages, but not much on the older trucks.

Added by Mike Feldman on 19 August 2011.
Are you sure it didnt come from Distric Hights Maryland. They are Co. 26 and they had a 70 Hahn tiller just like that one.

Added by Gil on 19 December 2011.
I was the District shift commander in which sta 26 serves. that is their old tillered ladder. Note the seal on the door is for the Bethesda FD.


Added by John Harris on 20 December 2011.
Well, it does say Bethesda 26 on the aerial ladder. Bethesda Fire Dept. is the only full-career (non-volunteer) dept. in Montgomery County, Maryland. It has 3 stations, numbered 6, 20, and 26 within the Montgomery County scheme. District Heights is also Station 26, but in Prince George's County, Montgomery's neighbor to the East. Both counties are immediately adjacent to Washington, DC. Hahn apparatus seems to have been popular in the 70s in the DC area -- DCFD also had a bunch of Hahn pumpers and maybe some tillers as well. I lived in Bethesda and worked in DC from 1975-2006, so I saw these engines frequently (though never photographed them...).

Added by Mike Feldman on 20 December 2011.
Thank you John and Mike for confirming this is Bethesda's Tillered Aerial.A plaque on the front of the tractor(cab)also states where it was from and also the current owner.Also, it is certainly a 4 section 100ft aerial ladder.

Added by Pete Matten on 20 December 2011.
In 1970 District Hights bought a open cab Hahn with a Grove ladder. It was refurbed with a Spartian cab. When they got there new truck I think they sold it to Bethesda.But it was originally District Hights Truck 26.

Added by Gil on 20 December 2011.
Was wondering if you have any idea who purchased the old quad from Annapolis MD and is in the uk


Added by John Muhitch on 04 March 2012.
That is not a 1970 Hahn! I'd guess more like a '77-'78 but definitely not a 1970.

Added by Chief Jim O'neill on 27 September 2012.
Seems like a lot of confusion; this TDA started out at District Heights, MD. in 1970, and had an open-cab Hahn tractor (serial CDTA-3). A photo of this version is on pg. 61 of the 'Hahn Fire Apparatus Photo Archive'by Tom Shand, published by Iconographix.A identical Hahn engine was delivered in 1967, and was also recabbed with a Spartan by J.C. Moore in 1984
This rig was sent to Grumman in 1984 for refurbishment with the Spartan cab shown, also bodywork on the trailer.In 1996, their current TDA was delivered, so this was sold to Bethesda, which at the time had 3 truck companies and wanted a reserve. After a fleet of Pierce ArrowXT TDA'S were delivered several years ago to Montgomery Co. FRS, 1 went to replace Bethesda TRK 6, the last remaining BFD truck co( TRKS 20 & 26 were disbanded).TRK 6 had run the oldest ladder in Montgomery Co.;a 1984 Seagrave (xT-3)since 1989.The x-DHVFD rig then became surplus at Bethesda.
The rig is now a 1984 Spartan/1970 Hahn/1984 Grumman/Grove 100'TDA
Hope this all helps!

Added by Warren W. Jenkins on 28 September 2012.
Ah-ha..... maybe why I am confused on the year. We just got rid of a '71 Hahn and this cab looks the same in many respects but is also different in jast as many. Whatever the case, it is a sharp looking piece of apparatus.

Added by Jim on 29 September 2012.
I know this page has not been commented on in a while but does anybody know the guy who owns this now in England? Any contact information or anything would help email if possible, thanks!-Ryan

Added by Ryan Williams on 04 February 2015.
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