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Inverness H&I FB Dennis Sabre
Fire Engine Photos
No: 28   Contributor: Marcel Sloover   Year: 2002   Manufacturer: Dennis   Country: United Kingdom
Inverness H&I FB Dennis Sabre

The fire brigade Inverness had two of these Water Tender Ladder. They came in the year 2000.
This WtL is a Dennis Sabre with a HIFB bodywork. License plate is V558JST.
Picture added on 20 May 2005
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Nice shot. Lots of blue lights. U.S. trucks have only a small amount of blue lights as compared to Europe and the U.K.

Added by George A. Fen on 16 August 2005.
the two sabres y558 and y557 vst are now running from thirse fire station

Added by The Man on 19 December 2007.
sorry meant to say the sabres Y558 JST and Y559 JST are now on the run from thurso fire station

Added by The Man on 20 December 2007.
best fire engines ever made have never driven anything better.Dennis fire engines are the rolls royce of fire engines.

Added by Thurso Firefighter on 17 August 2009.
Am I right in thinking that the two beauties discussed here were the only Sabres ever to operate in Scotland? As I recall it, Scotland developed a penchant for the substandard Swedish bin wagon chassis long before England did.

Added by Yelp Bullhorn on 07 March 2018.
No Grampian still has a XLsabre

Added by on 08 March 2018.
Grampian had one with a 10 man cab too, the two h&i ones are both gone now. Think they are both abroad now.

Added by Larbert firey on 08 March 2018.
Yes that's the one I'm on about, the 10 man one. As far as am aware the other Dennis was at Portlethen training school, and whether it is still there I am not sure.

Added by on 14 March 2018.
Yelp - The Swedish Scania was developed from the outset to perform well in severe Nordic winter conditions, which may have been one reason the Scottish fire services were attracted to them.

In addition, Scania engines and chassis have a well earned worldwide reputation for reliability and durability. While they were not that much cheaper to buy than a custom built Dennis Sabre was back then, they did have a much higher resale value when they had completed their service life, and the Scania brand was known the world over - while Dennis was relatively unknown outside the UK.

This meant that the actual cost of ownership was much less, especially if the trucks were leased - and conversion back to LHD was a breeze, meaning that they could be resold anywhere in the World.

These days they are not only very popular in Scandinavia and Britain, but also turning up in fire service fleets in Australia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria, Poland, South America, the Middle East and even both Germany and France - both of which have very strong local brands like MAN, Mercedes, Iveco and Renault.

Added by Rob Johnson on 14 March 2018.
Hi Rob. Thanks for that depressing offering! I say 'depressing' because Scania trucks seem to be taking over, first the UK, and now it seems, the world. Don't get me wrong, they do look the part; I love the look of them, but I have yet to hear of any firefighter actually liking them or rating them. And personally I think it's their views that should matter, not those of a pointless fire buff like me. I have several friends serving or ex- of my local brigade (Staffordshire, UK) that slate them without even the merest of provocation. None of their colleagues have a good word to say about them either, apparently: too big for our roads and tight spots, too slow, too cumbersome with poor cornering and turning ability. The cab is all wallowing and nausea-inducing even in those that have never suffered from travel sickness. They are also apparently cheap & tacky and rattly to travel in. Fair enough, the comprehensive network of Scania dealers in the UK means that when they do go wrong - which is quite often - their down-time is considerably less than when a Dennis went off-the-run, as brigade workshops waited......and waited......for a guy in brown overalls based in Guildford to pull his finger out!

As Scania are / we're an awful lot cheaper than the far superior Dennis it's hardly surprising that they fall short in many firefighters' minds. But it's these people that have to work with them day-in day-out. And some of them even go as far as claiming that they don't think they're fit for purpose! Yikes! That should ring alarm bells in fleet managers' minds but it doesn't, and that's a concern. It seems the bean counters have them in a full nelson. Well the evil austerity beast does have a thousand penetrative tentacles....

The only positive I've heard said about Scania from one of my serving FF friends is that they're nowhere near as bad as MAN appliances! Hurray, a positive! Oh no, hang on, Staffordshire have several of those too. Ahh what a shame. Curiously though, my HGV driver brother thinks Scania are brilliant!

But I think part of the problem is our firefighters have been spoilt! For all of the '80s and '90s here in Staffordshire we were awash with Dennises - RSs, SSs and Sabres. Impossibly hard acts to follow one and all in many peoples' eyes. And I'm sure that's a subject that can -- and probably will be -- argued passionately for many years to come....

And now Staffordshire firefighters have got Volvos to look forward to: Volvo FL Rosenbauer ATs to be precise. Very VERY different indeed. I wonder how they will go down... Eleven on order, one each for the ten wholetime stations and one for training school. First deliveries expected this Spring. Watch this space. And as for an old traditionalist like me, in his rose-tinted specs, sitting in his house on Memory Lane, in the town of Nostalgia, Staffs? Well obviously he doesn't much like these continental interlopers! Dare I say it, they're too European and radical! But my opinion will probably change when I see one in the flesh for the first time on the streets where I live, proudly sporting its Staffordshire decals. But if they do the bizz for our firefighters and serve our tax-payers well, then I suppose that's all that really matters...

Added by Yelp Bullhorn on 15 March 2018.
I forgot to mention Hong Kong, which used to have a huge fleet of Dennis appliances. Although they do operate a handful of Mercedes and MAN trucks, their fleet is heavily dominated by Scania these days...

Added by Rob Johnson on 16 March 2018.
I too have migrated over the years, from Rover and Jaguar to Volvo, then Audi, Porsche and Mercedes, but now I'm on my fifth Lexus!

Added by Rob Johnson on 20 March 2018.
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