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2011 Scania/JDC West Sussex Fire & Rescue.
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No: 27679   Contributor: Pete Matten   Year: 2011   Manufacturer: Scania   Country: United Kingdom
2011 Scania/JDC West Sussex Fire & Rescue.

2011 Scania P280/JDC Water Tender Ladder delivered straight from JDC on Friday,8th April(reg-HX11HYH)to Worthing Fire Station and photographed on Monday,11th April,2011.
This is one of 2 new Scania/JDC's just delivered to the West Sussex Fire & Rescue Service and will be allocated to Worthing,the other appliance will be allocated to the station at Crawley.
The appliances have been delivered all fitted out by JDC(John Dennis Coachbuilders)and so just the radio communications need now to be fitted and then the appliances will go on the run in due course.
Notice the new style livery.All new appliances are now being delivered with a red roof and not the traditional white,and sadly the white and blue lining to the cab has now also gone being replaced by Battenburg markings.
Picture added on 11 April 2011 at 22:22
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Pete, Please can you advise, I don't have that much opportunity to visit Workshops anymore, have they dropped the white Bedfordshire style livery on the grounds of cost or is this because there is possibility of a merger between West and East Sussex Fire and Rescue Services.
I would like to see them go back to a completely red livery similar to Hong Kongs.

Added by BOB CARVER on 12 April 2011.
Bob, while at Worthing I mentioned about the new livery to an old friend and what came up was the merger between East and West Sussex.I think the brigade aren't saying to much at the moment, but I can see it happening, and sooner then we expected.
I understand this will be the new livery for all new appliances in future, and yes its another cost-cutting exercise.But, also apart from East Sussex operating Volvo's, and West Sussex operating Scania's, they'll now both look red.It certainly makes you think the merger is not that far away.
PS.I wonder which Chief Officer will stand down?, we'll certainly not need them both.Maybe they'll also cut back on some of the other white-hats that aren't really needed instead of closing yet more stations and hitting the retained yet again.........I think not.Pete.


Added by Pete Matten on 12 April 2011.
Hello Pete and thanks for the pic. Sorry if the distinctive WSF&R decals are abandoned, but if the battenburg pattern is more reflective then I guess we have to go with it. And if there is a possibility of East and West Sussex amalgamating then why not? More even cover across the whole county...

Added by Michael Bissett-Powell on 12 April 2011.
Pete/Bob I would guess its a cost cutting exercise, I know the 09 Scania's dont have a white roof due to the cost of having them painted white. Also I understand that when all the 06 Scania's where ordered they did consider going fully Batternburg then. I should imagine the cost & labour involved in preping & spraying those white stripes doesnt come cheap. On a positive note its nice to see they have opted for a nice light bar.

Added by Stuart Purves on 12 April 2011.
Does any one know where Crawley's one is?

Added by Danny Chatfield on 16 April 2011.
Danny

If its not at Crawley then it is probably still at JDC or Scania.

Its not at workshops I know that much.

Added by Stuart Purves on 17 April 2011.
It looks smart, but not as distinctive or visible as the white stripe livery. When I asked about the relivery, I was told it was cost related, this new version is certainly less fidly to apply, as it is a basic red crew cab, with the minimum off additions, and we have also lost the red & white stripes on the bumpers too. Part of the reason the white stripe livery was developped was that research showed that white was more visible than red & yellow!! Full circle to the Coventry Yellow days of the early 70s! There is also the Home office "insistance" on Battenburg on all Fire appliances and the amalgamation theory, so it is probably a bit of all 3. Still a bit more destinctive than many brigades though. No idea where Crawleys is, suspect still at JDC. This appliance will become 01P1, leaving the CAFs fitted 06 Scania as 01P2.

Added by Jon Godden on 21 April 2011.
Any idea which machines will be going for disposal once these and the new MAN's go on the run?

Added by Phil on 21 April 2011.
Crawley's one is now at the back of Crawley Fire Station.

Added by Danny Chatfield on 22 April 2011.
Phil

It could be any off the Rapiers that go, I should think the last couple of mk1's & the 3 N reg Rapiers will be very likely candidates. The 2 T & V regs lease runs out this year so they may also be likely candidates.

Added by Stuart Purves on 22 April 2011.
Hi Stuart, thanks for that, I didn't realise that West Sussex still had any mk1's left, I take it they'll be L reg's.

Added by Phil on 22 April 2011.
Phil, they are J75 GRV & L86 PTR, all the others have gone. L86 PTR is now with Driver Training, im not sure about the allocation of J75 as it was the Fire Service Charities appliance but that role has now been done away with.

Added by Stuart Purves on 23 April 2011.
J75 GRV was at Bognor yesterday parked up with 2 cadets Rapiers, not sure if being used for cadets or what exactly.

Added by Jon Godden on 05 May 2011.
Hi, I'm new to this site, my name is Graham and I live on the Isle of Wight.
I have photo's of island machines, old and new.
The new being two Scania rescue pumps delivered only this week, not yet on the run.
Pump 1 Scania P280 reg. KX11 AYV will be stationed at Newport Headquarters.
Pump 2 Scania P270 reg. KX60 EDU will be stationed at Ryde. As for the Crawley's Scania, I can tell you that she came to the isle of wight for a short holiday so that crew members could familiarize with the layout of the machine. She returned to the mainland on the 11th April.

Added by Graham Bain on 26 May 2011.
Nice one graham, you in the fbs?. You got any pics of new iow scania's

Added by Richard Whiting on 26 May 2011.
Graham Bain, if you have some good pics please upload them, I am sure we would all love to see your collection.

Added by Monkey Boy The 3rd on 27 May 2011.
Hi Graham - interesting about Crawleys new Scania going to the island - I assume this is because it is nearly the same as the Islands new appliances, which I assume have JDC bodywork. As Hampshire is all Volvo, West Sussex is the nearest Scania user - any photos of it, must be the first time a West Sussex appliance has been to the Island - unless anyone knows better. Jon.

Added by Jon Godden on 27 May 2011.
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