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Karrier Gamecock 72A Alfred Miles
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No: 26267   Contributor: Dave Merrin   Year: 2011   Manufacturer: Commer   Country: United Kingdom
Karrier Gamecock 72A Alfred Miles

This 1956 Alfred Miles bodied Karrier Gamecock 72A, was one of six delivered new to Northumbria fire service. Based at Bellingham,this one saw service till 1980. All six were supplied as Hose Tenders and all six were converted in 1970 to emergency tenders. This one has less than 12,000 miles on it and runs like a new one! sadly, only two seem to have survived. This one now lives with me in Suffolk.
Picture added on 02 January 2011 at 17:40
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I take it you have just bought this then, It was on Ebay only just before Christmas. What will you run it as? Original Spec hose tender, or as the later emergency tender?

Added by Michael G. on 02 January 2011.
The mileage is worth noting. Even the Gamecocks operated by Lancashire, a much busier brigade were generally low mileage. Those sold with 10, 000+ miles on the clock were regarded as having a very high mileage. Most were sold with less miles on the clock. Compare today's mileages! Good luck with the preservation.

Added by Norman Price on 03 January 2011.
These also towed trailer pumps in the original hose/personnel carrier role.

Added by Gary Simpson on 03 January 2011.
Did these not origionally have water tanks but no pump as well as an oputfit of hose?!!

Added by Neal Glover on 03 January 2011.
I have a shot of this one when operational. I'll dig it out and post it.

Added by Ian Moore on 03 January 2011.
These were built as hose/personnel carriers and did indeed have a hose reel pump, first aid tank and single hose reel and towed Coventry CLimas large trailer pumps. Ordered by NORTHUMBERLAND COUNTY FIRE BRIGADE. Three of them currently survive.

Added by Ron Henderson on 04 January 2011.
I have the Climax FF500 trailed pump which goes with it. Although it looks tidy in the pics, it realy does need a respray, which is on the cards when the weather gets better. My original intention, when I bought this little Karrier, was to convert it into a mobile workshop for use in conjunction with my Earthmoving business but, now I realise how comparitivly rare it is and how much interest it has generated since I bought it, it has to stay in its original form.Its a lovely bit of kit to drive and now I have reset the ignition timing, if I keep my big foot out of it, it will do 18 mpg! I would love to see any pics of the third one or indeed any of its sisters.

Added by Dave on 06 January 2011.
Ron, I have just bought your most excellent book NORTHUMBERLAND FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICE. what an informative book it is! Thankyou!

Added by Dave Merrin on 06 January 2011.
Dave, Any chance of a pic of how it is now? I notice this pic is from Masham Market Place back in 2009.

Added by Davey G on 07 January 2011.
No problem Davey, took some pics this morning and posted them.

Added by Dave Merrin on 08 January 2011.
Hi Dave. I've just bought a ex Durham County Gamecock Water Tender reg YPT 695. I also live in Suffolk (near Woodbridge) but i'm from Northumberland &remember these machines. I'm a retired fireman. Best regards Peter Scott.

Added by Peter Scott on 21 March 2011.
These Northumberland Karriers had the factory crew cab and a separate Miles box body.

This cab was usually supplied on Karrier municipal chassis intended for bin wagon (garbage truck)use and did not - as far as I know - appear on any other fire appliances. This makes these units rather unusual, in addition to their unique specification as combination hose wagons/hose reel tenders and towing tenders!

The idea of building a box on the back of a factory crew cab is of course very common these days, but in 1956 it was pretty much unheard of in the UK, although some European fire trucks were being built this way...

Added by Rob Johnson on 16 November 2017.
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