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Bedford S/Morris Magirus Jersey FB SMK 885Y
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No: 21044   Contributor: Petros   Year: 1985   Manufacturer: Bedford   Country: United Kingdom
Bedford S/Morris Magirus Jersey FB SMK 885Y

1985 Duxford rally. This was supplied to the States of Jersey FB in 1957. It is an 85 foot ladder with in-board screw jacks because the narrow roads on this channel island. This type has always been a favourite of mine because the Dinky model. I love the windows in the roof! Bootle, Kent, Lancashire and others operated this type. John Morris the Magirus agent operated out of Salford, Lancashire. A jersey website says this has Haydon bodywork, which is entirely possible as Haydons worked with J Morris.
Picture added on 14 December 2009 at 11:26
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I'm just confirming this was a 1957 Bedford S/Haydon/Morris Magirus 85'Turntable Ladder.Its Jersey registration number was J11950.This was the first ever aerial appliance to be purchased by the States of Jersey Fire Brigade.

Added by Pete Matten on 14 December 2009.
This appliance served the States of Jersey from 1957 until 1983 when it came to Middlesex and was preserved by Pete Edwards of SEC Fire Protection, then acquiring its 'non age related' UK registration. It subsequently moved to Northamptonshire where I think it began to suffer and I wonder if it still survives (anyone?). Now to the question of bodywork and Magirus concession - John Morris and Sons of Salford certainly held the concession in the 1950s and probably built the bodywork on the TLs that they supplied. However in 1958 they lost the sole concession to David Haydon Ltd of Birmingham; it is commonly believed that David Haydon sub contracted all their bodywork with much of it going to Brade-Leigh of West Bromwich. This would then suggest that the Jersey TL was supplied by John Morris and not David Haydon with the fire engineering carried out by Prestage. Petros' comment about Haydons working with J Morris is highly unlikely as the former had gained the sole concession for Magirus ladders from the latter!

Added by Simon Rowley on 19 December 2009.
In early 1999 this appliance was owned by Mr James Butlin, of Irthlingborough Northants, and was parked at Sywell airfield. The airport management told Mr Butlin to remove it; I understand that he moved it to an adjacent field. I also understand that Mr Butlin was trying to sell the appliance, but his asking price may have been excessive as the appliance is believed to have been in poor condition. I did not actually see it.

Added by Bill Edwards on 04 November 2010.
Anyone able to share any information on the Range Rover Commando pictured in the photograph?

Added by John D on 04 November 2010.
John - the Range Rover Commando 6x4 Carmichael is PTJ 698M that was new to the Lancashire County Fire Brigade in 1973 and almost immediately passed to the Greater Manchester Fire Service in 1974. It was classed as an ERT and served at Eccles.

When it came out of service in 1983 it was purchased by SEC Fire Protection of Enfield, Middlesex owned by Pete Edwards as has been mentioned regarding the Jersey Bedford TL. About 1994 it was sold through Marston Motor Auctions and it has since disappeared without trace unless of course anyone knows differently. Where is it now?

Added by Simon Rowley on 04 November 2010.
see picture #25863 for the Range Rover PTJ 698M.

Added by Peter Williams on 07 November 2010.
Thanks Simon,

DVLA website states PTJ 698M it was due road tax 01 03 1996 and that it is white. Seems probable that it's just a ghost now.

Now TPO 514M ex West Sussex was due tax in 2002, so is more likely to survive, anyone know anything?

Added by John D on 09 November 2010.
Simon, I submitted a comment at the time, but it was not posted. PTJ 698M was for sale on ebay and sold. It had been stripped of all fire-fighting equipment (although maintained it's body), it had also had the original engine removed and replaced with a Nissan? diesel. Not sure of it's fate.

Added by John D on 29 March 2011.
Simon
Would you have any knowledge of the whereabouts of the A.E.C./Merryweater TLP Reg no PRX 62 which was at Stn.1.Reading.
You mention a guy named Edwards, who was from Middlesex who owned it.I remember showing him how to operate it whilst attending a rally at Thorpe Park, Surrey many years ago, any help would be appreciated.Thanks!

Added by Alan Jones ex Berkshire on 30 March 2011.
Hi just to update about the 1957 Bedford fire truck that was in service in Jersey is in a garden next door to me. Suffolk

Added by Eamon Smith on 19 March 2015.
Excellent! Glad to hear it is still around. Would you be able to post a photo of it? What condition is it in? I first saw this appliance in 1975, on a family holiday in the other island. (Guernseymen try to avoid saying the 'J' word, as it is considered swearing!)

Added by Bill Edwards on 19 March 2015.
Hi Bill
I will post a picture on tomorrow. Condition of the old girl.
Well the decking needs replacing.it needs sanding down and a respray. But you no what it wouldn't take to much to get it up and running. And the owner is looking to sell it on

Added by Eamon smith on 19 March 2015.
Excellent. I am very pleased to hear that it is still in reasonable condition. I look forward to seeing the photo. Unfortunately I have nowhere to store it, so I would not consider buying it.


Added by Bill Edwards on 21 March 2015.
Hi Petros! The screwjacks on the was standard on the Magirusladders in the 50 '! IIRC, the first with hydraulic, came in late 60 '!

Anders F. Sweden.

Added by Anders Fallström on 01 September 2015.
Eamon, if you read this thread please would you be as kind to make contact or give feedback. Is it still with you or
gone to the scrapyard.

Added by BOB CARVER on 07 May 2019.
If anybody is interested in rescuing the fire engine then I know exactly where it is and it is available! Please contact me if seriously interested. Many thanks.

Added by Andrew James Brown on 17 September 2019.
Bob Carver is trying to rescue it. Send him a PM!

Added by Bill Edwards on 26 September 2019.
Robert Bob Carver is trying to rescue it. Send him a PM!

Added by Bill Edwards on 26 September 2019.
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