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Duxford Appliances 2
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No: 20456   Contributor: Chris Hall   Year: 1988   Manufacturers: Land Rover, Thornycroft   Country: United Kingdom
Duxford Appliances 2

Another Thornycroft (Q368KEW) and a Landrover (NJE489R) both at Duxford Airfield c1988. I don't have any further details of these two. Any other offers?
Picture added on 08 November 2009 at 08:08
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Chris,on the left we have a 1968 Thornycroft Nubian Major/Pyrene 202 CrT,the registration being Q368KEW.This crash tender was originally from Jersey Airport in the Channel Islands and its original registration was J2522.I also photographed this appliance at Duxford in 1991,it was on permanent loan to the Duxford Aviation Society.(Will send picture in if you don't mind).
The other vehicle with the registration NJE489R is from 1977 and is a Landrover/Foamite and was classed as a foam tender and this was owned by Duxford Airport Fire Service.

Added by Pete Matten on 08 November 2009.
Chris, the Landie is an ex RAF ACRT and the Thorny had an air blown foam system, the same sort used by Defence Fire Services up until the Dennis Mk 9. I remember chatting to a subby there about the machines but didnt get any history. The Thorny is an unusual beast and as its on a "Q" plate suggests a military connection. Duxford is well known for its second hand appliances and has fielded some very interesting machines over the years. I hope someone else can add more to this very interesting picture.

Added by John Stott on 08 November 2009.
I believe that the Thornycroft is a Pyrene bodied mk 202,it was loaned to Filton airfield for the first Concorde flight,it was red at that time.
It then went to Jersey airport until being donated to the Duxford airfield fire service.
The land rover looks to be an ex RAF ACRT.

Added by Bob on 08 November 2009.
The ACRT was ex RAF Oakington I have Photo when it was at Duxford in the Early 80's along with the Sun thornet Appliances.when on visit from RAF Wyton

Added by Bob on 08 November 2009.
Bob, just to add to the Thorny, I spoke to an old oppo of mine today and he recalls, true or not, this may have been a prototype Mk 9! He said he thought it was ditched because the MOD didn't want to carry on with air blown systems after the Mk8. Hence the move to aspirated systems on the Mk 9 onwards. Hope someone can cast more light.

Added by John Stott on 08 November 2009.
John I remember that they MOD were looking at the CAA appliances aspirated foam mid 70's to get away from the airblown foam systems. if you remember when the foam hit a/c it stayed for weeks in place!!!

Added by Bob on 08 November 2009.
Bob it was a complicated system, but yes you are right, I never saw it burn back and it stuck like glue!

Added by John Stott on 09 November 2009.
John, this one reminds me a bit of a larger Mk7 RAF had mate.

Added by Bob on 09 November 2009.
John,i seem to recall a film showing a similar machine but without bodywork,doing a light water demonstration,by the way,there are 2 Bobs on this particular item.

Added by Bob on 09 November 2009.
I hope we arnt going to have a blown -v- naturally aspirated foam fight are we.....I had enough of those in my time....half my former crewmates were ex RAF fire section, the other half were not.....that discussion raged endlessly.....like dutch rolled -v- conventional hose lol

Added by Barrie Green on 09 November 2009.
It was a Thornycroft Nubian with a RR B81,not a Major

Added by Roger on 09 November 2009.
Well Barrie as you started it...Blown was the only way to use SPF concentrate, I never rated it aspirated, too wet. When FPF took over it did adhere well, but never having seen it as blown I cant comment on that. Dutch is better on an airfield, conventional in a built up area as more control and there's usually more manpower around. I wouldn't want to cause any arguments though....

Added by John Stott on 10 November 2009.
Jihn. On the Airfield mate we had all our 45mm delivery hose dutch rolled for ease of deploying it quickly, and the 70mm conventional for extending lines.We all have our preferred type of foam's mate, i did'nt like AFFF at all on grass surface's. it just soaked in no security blanket

Added by Bob on 10 November 2009.
not arf John !!!!! Dutch was ideal with a 10X and a locker fitted pump outlet for a sideline....but that was our bread and butter wasnt it John?

Added by Barrie Green on 10 November 2009.
Aye Barry, aviation has its moments mate, that's why I liked retained, chimneys, stack fires and RTAs. Oh, and watching LFBs officers on makeups!
Bob, AFFFs fine on concrete, but I missed the dry powder for knockdown.

Added by John Stott on 11 November 2009.
Hi I now own the ACRV Land Rover in the picture. If anyone can tell me more about it or have any pictures i'd love to know more.

Added by Scott Young on 11 December 2010.
Duxford ACRT, Aircraft Crash Rescue Tender is ex RAF Original reg 39AA82 EX RAF Waterbeach re=reg in 1962 to NJE489R.

Added by Gordon Smith on 13 December 2010.
Sorry finger trouble above should say re-reg in 1976 to NJE489R

Added by Gordon Smith on 14 December 2010.
i own the Land rover now bought from Duxford by my late Father

Added by Scott on 24 May 2014.
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