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Commer open top Unidentified.
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No: 18381   Contributor: Chris Hall   Year: 1998   Manufacturer: Commer   Country: United Kingdom
Commer open top Unidentified.

I don't know anything about this other than it's a Commer with an Oxford registration. Seen at Preston Park c1998-2000.
Any offers for info?
Picture added on 18 July 2009 at 01:13
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Looks like it may have been somewhere with low bridges.....

Added by Andy on 18 July 2009.
looks to me like its been a works fire engine...new to me, I hope it has been preserved

Added by Barrie Green on 18 July 2009.
WOW! That's something special, reminiscent of that South African Dennis seen elsewhere on this site, can't wait to here (and see more) of this one.

Added by John D on 18 July 2009.
The above machine is in a breakers yard sheeted up in North Yorkshire

Added by Gordon Smith on 19 October 2009.
Guys I think this is a works machine and serverd at one of the British Leyland plants around the City.But I could be wrong.Hope this helps

Added by Shaun R on 19 October 2009.
This appliance is featured in a Fire Brigade Society publication on Industrial Fire Appliances published back in 2002.
On the outskirts of the City of Oxford was the car assembly plant at Cowley which was owned by the Rover Group,Austin Rover,British Leyland and Morris.Over the years,the plant reduced greatly in size and was later owned by B.M.W.,building the new Mini.
Dating from the 1960's,this open cab Commer pumping appliance(reg-38KFC)was owned by the Pressed Steel Fisher Division of British Leyland.
If you look at the picture,you can actually see the wording PSF(Pressed Steel Fisher)Fire Brigade on the lockers on the side of the appliance.

Added by Pete Matten on 20 October 2009.
Gordon, any more info on it's current status (condition, exact location, price etc) and did you get an opportunity to take any photographs perhaps?

Added by John D on 20 October 2009.
John I saw the machine early in the year it was still covered up, I suppose for the right price it could be for sale, I will try to find out

Added by Gordon Smith on 20 October 2009.
Hi Gordon, please don't go to any trouble on my account. This is such a unique machine that it looks like a prime restoration candidate and as such any further detail that may inspire someone to take it would naturally be a great thing.

Added by John D on 22 October 2009.
It was still there a couple of weeks ago when I visited last - its been there about six years and was bought from a sale at the Yorkshire showground in Harrogate - its covered over and, as anyone who knows this yard owner - (who is very approachable - once you know him) its likely to stay that way !

Added by Rick Loudon on 22 October 2009.
Hi Rick, by chance this wouldn't happen to be the same yard that has Dennis F44 WPD 236G in it? (as I understood that this was in Yorkshire)

Added by John D on 23 October 2009.
No sorry John - I don't have any knowledge of that appliance

Added by Rick Loudon on 23 October 2009.
Just stumbled across a site with a beautiful picture of this machine in a restored state, if only ...
see www.ccmv.fotopic.net/p60636523.html

Added by John D on 28 October 2009.
Pete, it Andy. Do you know of any photos of the Ergomatic TGM4R AEC that PSF ran?

Added by Andy Middleton on 21 November 2009.
Andy,at this time can't find any info relating to the vehicle you've mentioned.Have you got the registration of the vehicle,or any other details such as when it was in use with the PSF Plant.
Can't promise anything,but I will continue to see what I can find.Pete.

Added by Pete Matten on 23 November 2009.
Many thanks Pete. The reg is MFC 66G. Didn't know they had an AEC. Didn't they run that awful Morris Minor thing?

Added by Andy Middleton on 23 November 2009.
Andy, they did a one off Morris Minor inside the plant as a First Strike Reg.TFC953,narrow enough to get between this production lines,it carried extinguishers,"window cleaners"ladder and little else. I agree awful is the word for it,its preserved now. I think this Commer would have been ideal for seaside firecrews in the summer!

Added by Gary Simpson on 24 November 2009.
Looking at the front scuttle, this Commer dates from about 1959/61. In 1973 PSF ran the Commer, 38 KFC, Morris Minor, TFC953, AEC, MFC66G and an open Leyland PE.

Added by Mike Williams on 08 December 2009.
Its a Commer C7 Mk 4, probably petrol too, 6 cylinder.

Added by Simon on 07 February 2011.
see picture #26841. Is this a cancelled export order by any chance? Why would PSF works FB buy this in the UK? Might be a Haydon body.

Added by Peter Williams on 08 February 2011.
Definately not a cancelled export order. Bodied by Alfred Miles, Cheltenham.

Added by Ron Henderson on 09 February 2011.
Can anyone tell me what happened to Alfred Miles of Cheltenham

Added by Patrick O Grady on 14 March 2011.
It was absorbed into Dennis Bros in the 1960s and Dennis briefly produced the Dennis M style ie Miles bodywork

Added by Peter Williams on 14 March 2011.
Patrick, Alfred Miles, were swallowed up by Dennis in the early 1960's, with some Miles designs being produced as the 'Dennis M'. Miles last works' were in Tewkesbury Road, Cheltenham and then the old Gloster Aircraft site at Brockworth.

Added by Mike Williams on 16 March 2011.
see picture #5288 for even fuller details in Robert Carver's post on Alfred Miles.

Added by Peter Williams on 17 March 2011.
There were two physically separate works brigades at Cowley: the Morris one was where the AEC 'MFC' replaced the big Morris appliance, was it not? At some point in the '60s, the PSF brigade had switched to Land Rovers. The PSF site is where BMW has developed Mini production. The Morris FS was off the south western end of Hollow Way, near the original 1913-era car assembly building.

Added by Stephen Jolly on 19 April 2012.
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