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County Durham Bedford HCB Angus WrT
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No: 14459   Contributor: Chris Hall   Year: 1987   Manufacturer: Bedford   Country: United Kingdom
County Durham Bedford HCB Angus WrT

This is former County Durham Bedford TJ5/HCB Angus WrT at Preston Park c1987. This was written off following an RTA on the A19 on the way home from the Tyne Tees Rally c1994, but I understand it's remains are still in existance. Can anyone confirm this?
Picture added on 29 January 2009
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Now, that is a burly-looking machine.

Interesting way of stowing the single ladders, in the vertical, on the roof. The crew must clamber up on the inside to un-hook them; and a good height clearance for the Fire Bay door.......

And the crew cock-pit idea, with just the rear sliding doors - great space-saver.

I have been enjoying this run of your pics, Chris; keep digging out those negatives !

Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B

Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 29 January 2009.
Trying to shed some light on the story, the pic would have been after 1987 as the Rally moved to Preston Park in 1989. You are right it came to a sticky end after an argument with a tanker on the A19 Tees Fly over. However around the same time a sister appliance in its original Durham County livery 897 JUP was also rallied now this did reappear in the Huddesfield area in the last couple of years for sale on e-bay. I am not aware that the Teesside Bedford survived!

Added by Brett Clayton on 30 January 2009.
Pat, the two verticaly mounted ladders you mentioned are in fact 'hook ladders' no longer used in the UK and that was the normal method of carrying these ladders as you will notice on most pre 1960s British appliances. This pump would normally carry a 35 ft wooden Ajax/Bailey extension ladder mounted in the usual way. Access to the roof mounted equipment was by a fixed ladder on the rear of the vehicle,

Added by Barrie Green on 30 January 2009.
This brings back a few memories Chris of when I first joined the fire service
way back in????, 'Oh those were the days'.Our appliances(W.S.F.B)were all the
aluminium sides, just the front and roof in red.Thanks Chris, great picture.

Added by Pete Matten on 30 January 2009.
Thanks for that info, Barrie - a rear-view of this Pump, or, of her sister, would be great - any one out there, got a shot ?

That rear-mounted search-light has its merits - the (rear-mounted)Pump Operator can operate it, without having to dash around to the front of the engine each time.....

Regards, from canada,
Pat_R-B

Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 31 January 2009.
The searchlight is demountable and can be fitted to a tripod

Added by Barrie Green on 31 January 2009.
Hi Brett, and thanks for the information, I have a couple of pictures of 897JUP which I took at the same time as this. 897JUP was restored in Durham Livery, and this one was in Teesside livery. I purchased a picture of 897JUP sat in a Car Park in what I was told was 'Wakefield'. The picture was apparently very recent. (July 08) and the machine looked very retrievable.

Added by Chris Hall Teesside UK. on 07 February 2009.
hi all, I owned 897 jup for a number of years and rallied it around the north of england late 90's, I have many photos of this machine if required

Added by David Hoyle on 18 June 2011.
Hi David, who did you get 897JUP from? as one of these in Durham livery used to be owned by someone I worked with.

Added by Gary Simpson on 19 June 2011.
I sold it approx 16 years ago to the firemen from Mold fire station in North Wales.
a bit if background info, it was one of a pair originally at Newton Aycliffe fire station, and following its little accident, I believe it was turned into a emergency tender / support vehicle,
I owned it for approx three years purchased it after a fire engine rally at Teeside airport from a chap in North Yorkshire, I think it was over Barnard castle way but I will check on this if I can find my paperwork.

Added by David Hoyle on 19 June 2011.
897JUP was never an emergency tender/support vehicle. It was transferred to Tyne & Wear Metropolitan Fire Bigade in April 1974 along with Durham County Fire Brigades Chopwell fire station. They sold in in 1976 when it was acquired by Watson Carriers Spennymoor.Its had another few owners since then. I have pictures of it when it had the accident and in Tyne & Wear livery.It was rebuilt by Hubbicks Coachworks, Byker, Newcastle upon Tyne.

Added by Ron Henderson on 20 June 2011.
Thanks Ron for additional info, when I got it, it was basically an empty shell, I took it to Newton Aycliffe when we travelled to the Teeside rally and a couple of the firemen remembered her, and gave info about what she carried.
I am looking through my photos to find a good picture or two.. plenty to go through, but not many suitable - too dark, out of focus etc, but will find one or two.

Added by David Hoyle on 21 June 2011.
I have a couple of pictures of 897JUP taken at a couple of rallies in the early to middle 80's. When they get digitalised I'll post them.

Added by Chris Hall on 21 June 2011.
My friend and I bought one of these from a garage in Blackley, Manchester for £2500 in about 1997/8. It was soon involved in a minor shunt and was off road for a couple of years until sold. My mate sorted it all out so have no idea where it went. I have a photo of it outside my house somewhere.

Added by Pete Ramsay on 05 October 2012.
This picture must have been early to mid 90's as that's my father sat in the back of it, he would take it to Preston park show on his days off....as far as I'm aware it was subject to a car running up the back of it on the slip road onto the A66 after it had broken down (was very thirsty and only a minimum of petrol would be put in it)...it was written off from there and left the brigade, to the best of my knowledge it was scrapped unfortunately. Had many a good trip to the fire engine show in it when I was little.

Added by Martin Bonner on 18 August 2017.
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